If they had punching power...

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  1. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wayne mc cullagh
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Indeed, he mostly kept the rocket in his pocket.

    Wait - damn it, OK...pretend there are no homoerotic undertones to that.
     
  3. mcvey

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    ATG is not possible for some of these ,but it sure would have made them harder to beat. Others are ATG in spite of a lack of power

    UK
    Tommy Farr
    Len Harvey
    Howard Winstone
    Kevin Finnegan
    Walter McGowan
    Nel Tarleton

    US
    Joey Archer
    Billy Graham
    Jake Lamotta
    Tommy Loughran
    Joey Maxim

    Other , Miguel Canto.
     
  4. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed, j. With Wayne's his rock-hard head, taste-for-battle 'n work-rate, an eraser woulda made him a lock for ATG.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If Calzaghe's and Tunney's mitts were tougher and they hadn't suffered so many hand injuries both would have better demonstrated the power they definitely possessed.
     
  6. red cobra

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    Lightweight history may have turned out somewhat differently if Buchanan had been blessed with power..
     
  7. red cobra

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    Amen J.G.
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Angelo Dundee said something to the effect that when Willie planted himself, he could make the heavy bag "sing".
     
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  10. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    from what I understand about murderer's row, Holman Williams was an amazing pure boxer but lacked power because of hand injuries. from what spectators have said, you would get the impression that he is an ATG anyways, but I wonder if more KO's would have lead to more recognition.
     
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    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Two welterweights come to mind
    1 Jack Britton, who had 344 bouts would have certainly been the top welter of alltime
    if he could have hit hard.Was stopped ONE time [first year] only...Amazing...
    2 Billy Graham-who I saw from a prelim fighter was a great classic boxer, with a cast
    iron chin, who in 128 bouts was NEVER kod or dropped...He held his own with the likes of
    Kid Gavilan,Carmen Basilio and middleweight Joey Giardello...Wow what he could have been ,with good punching power...In top 5 of Welterweights, IF....
     
  12. Bukkake

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    With only 11 KO wins in 256 fights Memphis Pal Moore was one of the most featherfisted fighters of all time. Even so he defeated 10 world champions and 7 HOFers... imagine how great he could have been with a KO-punch!
     
  13. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do wonder about just what kind of power he actually possessed. He dropped Walker in their first fight, and knocked out Kid Lewis the final time he regained the WW crown. We have footage of Lewis stopping Tom Gummer in a single round, Johnny Basham and Boy McCormick. We know he could hit. Lewis was stopped four times in 299 fights. He was counted out three times, once when he was in his teens, once by the deadly hitting and much bigger Carpentier (in a famous match on youtube), and by Britton. As knockout wins go, Britton KO 9 Lewis in Canton, Ohio on St Patrick's Day 1919 is a monster.

    Back in 1957, Fleischer rated Jack only behind Barbados Joe Walcott and Mysterious Billy Smith. (He rated a peak Robinson at five in the welterweight class, as you know, but other posters may not be aware of.)
     
  14. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duodenum, my first Ring Record Book is from 1961... where SRR of course is ranked #5 at middleweight. So I'm wondering: when did he first make Fleischer's list at welterweight - and who did Fleischer drop to make room for him at middleweight?
     
  15. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    some great posts here.:thumbsup