If Wilder Never Fought Again..?

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  1. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You're a complete moron, you can get blocked.
     
  2. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Hatman Strikes Back is madly in love with himself, and sees himself as a genuine authority in boxing. It's like an amateur Badminton player who has played since they were 5 years old, and are now 50, who boasts about all of the times they competed in regional events, but didn't make a penny competing in the sport. We laugh at no-hopers like Dorian Darch, when they are like Muhammad Ali compared to Hatman Strikes Back. When his channel first came about, he spoke look a hood rat in a slightly high-pitched voice. Always claims to be interested in "human psychology" because he took an evening course at his local community college in the early 90's. Worst of all, rams down everyone's throat how he's objective and not a fanboy, when he clearly is. If you are objective, you don't need to ram it down people's throats. A true halfwit, but if you had the displeasure of having a look at his former Facebook group, then you'd realise why his ego is so huge. He's surrounded by dunderheads who stroke it all hours of the day. A couple of months ago he boasted about his "well above average" income. One has to laugh at the way he always sits on the fence but shoehorns a couple of fine details in the "small print" so that he can say "I told you so". Some of his views on all sorts of topics are outrageously bad, especially nutrition.

    He likes to be an edgy contrarian, going against the narrative at the time. He used to big up Fury and state that he is the Muhammad Ali of current times (when he was down in the dumps). When he came back, he was so bitter about how well he did that this facade he had been projecting soon dissipated. Basically, he's a Joshua fanboy
     
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  3. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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  4. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only things Wilder had going for him were his KO percentage and his 10 defenses against weak opposition. In terms of history he might get some props for those accomplishments but imo he’s in the top 50 but closer to 50.
     
  5. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    whoot whoot
     
  6. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's half a dozen guys with more impressive records than Wilder in the divison at present alone and there is about 20 guys in divison I would back to beat in the divison at present.
     
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  7. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I've never checked out his Facebook, Patreon or anything other than his Youtube channel but I remember him talking about why he didn't make it as a pro boxer and it basically amounted to "I was tired in the gym after doing my day job" lol, as though it had nothing to do with him simply lacking talent! I also remember a video where he talked about Audley Harrison being an egomaniac and a narcissist and went off on a tangent utterly devoid of self-awareness, where for what seemed like minutes he defended himself from the *potential* allegations of being an egomaniac and a narcissist!

    I suppose the vocal change was for commercial reasons? His audience is largely white and probably less "liberal" than average, so he has to pander to them to some degree, while implicitly slipping in his own agendas.

    Hatman has been more consistent in picking against Fury than some of Fury's most ardent haters: he picked Haye to beat Fury in 2013, he picked Joshua to "cut through Fury like a hot knife through butter" after the Kevin Johnson win(!) he picked Wilder to beat Fury around the time he schooled Stiverne, he picked Wlad to beat Fury (he was ecstatic that Fury schooled Wlad but only because Wlad was threatening the legacies of Ali and Lewis in his mind, with the Pulev demolition a year prior and the feeling that Wlad may reign for another few years longer if he wasn't stopped) after Joshua beat Wlad he said that Joshua would beat Fury if he ever came back, he picked Wilder to beat Fury in 2018 and he picked Wilder to beat Fury in 2020. He even sat on the fence with the trilogy fight, hoping once again that Fury would lose.

    I think he's an AJ fanboy not because he really likes the boring dullard (who the more perceptive among us have known is a hypejob for a long time now) but because AJ is a very unthreatening champion to the legacies of past fighters, in his case Ali and Lewis. In any fantasy fight against a champion from the past, you can easily imagine AJ gassing out, getting chinned, quitting, getting schooled or some combination thereof. It's much more difficult to make that argument with 6'7+, 255-270 lbs Fury because he's always found an answer and Wilder is deadly fast, extremely long, very tough and tenacious and a lethal KO threat at any time, especially if the champ is on the chinny side like Lewis or Wlad (let alone Louis, Frazier, Norton etc.)
     
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  9. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Were Burns, Patterson, and Johnson simply belt holders in a sea of 3-4 champs...or were they THE Champ. :thinking:
     
  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: those stats mean ****all in terms of ranking greatness FFS.....