If Wlad's run-in went:

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Briggs could get himself in the top 30 i wouldnt begrudge Wlad a soft defense after fighting 3 straight top 10 fighters. My problem is he fights so seldom it feels like a ripoff that he would need to fight that kind of comp to begin with. Ali and Louis are ripped for taking on some weak defenses, but look how much more often they were fighting top fighters. The sport has changed, why hasnt taking on overmatched comp changed while fighting less often?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, he would have been. p4p #1 god just beat Pacquaio, nobody is telling him what to do, or getting him out of the sport, that's ludicrous.

    Generally speaking, fighters won't be allowed to take on these type of fighters in a normal way. I don't think Harris would qualify as an "acceptable opponent" in his own television contract. He would be rejected.

    But for me? Personally? And my judgement of that fighter - I wouldn't have a problem with it if he'd just defeated his #1 contender, no. A glorified spar is fine with me if he's defeated his #1 contender in his last fight.

    Hard to make this any clearer, really.
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Your opinion is perfectly clear . I'm trying to tell you what's wrong with it.
    A Briggs fight is a side show and would disgrace the sport and Wlads reputation.
    As a Harris fight would for Floyd.

    The guys Briggs has beaten have world rankings between 200 -600. Club fights not even worthy of a TV broadcast.

    Don't matter how many top rankers you beat , a guy so shot and irrelevant like Briggs is never acceptable.

    Holding all the belts , there is only a responsibility to fight the next best available challengers.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well Wlad fighting Briggs at the end of the schedule i've described wouldn't change my view on him even .1%.

    So, you're wrong.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I actually hope he fights Briggs the more I think about it:thumbsup
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I actually think he might. I think it might be his farewell.
     
  7. Mr. Iron Chin

    Mr. Iron Chin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali 56 (KO 37) + lost 5 (KO 1) + drawn 0 = 61

    Louis 66 (KO 52) + lost 3 (KO 2) + drawn 0 = 69

    Klitschko 63 (KO 53) + lost 3 (KO 3) + drawn 0 = 66 still active.

    Something is a miss.
     
  8. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you're one that prattles on about how great the old timers were compared to modern heavyweights, you can't condemn Klitschko fighting Briggs because in large part, the venerable old timers were fighting opponents who in no way shape or form be allowed to challenge the heavyweight champion for a title today.
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What do you think is a miss?
     
  10. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he fights Jennings and then Fury. I am fine with a Briggs fight. He did just beat the # 1 contender. Jennings is top ten and Fury Top 2. That is great track record and warrants one money making soft touch if he desires. Wlad has consistently fought (outside his brother of course) the best the divsion has offered for a decade and counting.
     
  11. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As a tune up or late replacement, yes.
     
  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Irrelevant. Its like saying everyone who fought a 12 round title fight today doesnt count because it wasnt a 15 round title fight. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
     
  13. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Honestly, im a wlad fan... and nothing would make it acceptable to me. Hes the heavyweight champion of the world, and there should be a limit to how low they are able to go when choosing an opponent to defend the titles against. Regardless of the circumstances.
     
  14. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so people shouldn't consider that Joe Louis in all his greatness was fighting opponents such as Johnny Davis 3-3 for the heavyweight title? Why shouldn't Klitschko be allowed to do likewise?
     
  15. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That fight was supposed to be an exhibition where all proceeds went to the Army-Navy fund. The NY state commission changed it to a world title bout and 15 rounds. So sure, under those circumstances Wlad would surely be allowed to have his non profit exhibition changed on him and you wouldnt hear a peep from me. Do some homework Butch, this fight was never set up to be a title defense. :patsch