If you are Andre Ward right now..

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  1. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    It sounds like a childish worship, different strokes for different folks.
     
  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    So many excuses for Kovalov's loss, coping skills must have not been taught in the household, dealing with grief.
     
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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    The last time Ward had a fight in sight after inactivity, he took 2.5 tune-ups.
     
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  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are of the impression Kov is fresh and in his prime?
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Legacy!! Ward hasnt got a legacy. After the super six. in which he fought every fight on home turf, he fought 4 times in over 5 years against club fighters while suing his terminally ill manager. Then came the 2 Kovalev fights, both of which he should have really lost one by DQ.
    HE'S JUST ANOTHER MANUFACTURED FIGHTER LIKE
    MAYWEATHER AND CANELO
     
  6. Richard M Murrieta

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    What is this prime, everybody believes he is an escapee from a local nursing home, no one will buy that, plain and simple he lost. If he knew he did not have it anymore, why did he take the fight? Greed is his own fault, not Canelo's. Why do it? He should have retired, to leave his legacy intact, he has enough money. or is he destitute, if he is, booze and fun cost money. If he was a dedicated champion and took care of his body, he could have won, prime sounds like an excuse.
     
  7. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fault has NOTHING to do with a fighters condition when they enter the ring. Of course no one forced Kov to return so quickly. But he was offered ton of money, so he took it. Fighters do that. Especially for 12 million dollars!!!

    All you have to do is watch Kov from a few years ago. If you say you have and he looks the same, you are just flat out lying.
     
  8. Richard M Murrieta

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    You sound very upset, I have seen him and yes greed is his own fault, he lives the high life and abuses his body, it is his fault. A great fighter always keeps his body in top condition for all challenges, and again knows his own limitations. I do not care for Alvarez either, but fact is Alvarez knocked him out.
     
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  9. WhataRock

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    Ward would have definitely beaten Calzaghe I know that much.
     
  10. IsaL

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    Many aggressive fighters look different against Canelo.

    GGG
    Cotto
    JCC Jr
    Kovalev

    Its the clean, accurate counter punching that makes them look much less aggressive.

    Just look at GGG, went from MX style pressure body puncher to Winky Wright.
     
  11. Henry Hank

    Henry Hank Mexicans Run Houston Full Member

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    Dont be a dumbass and stay retired continue to be a good example of a fighter that retired at the right time.
     
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  12. SquaredCircle

    SquaredCircle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wish Ward had stuck around to fight Beterbiev, Gvozdyk, Bivol, etc. And I wish he would come back and fight Canelo now, too. He left a lot of potential big wins on the table that could have firmly cemented his place as the fighter of the decade, but I respect the hell out of his decision to walk away on top. More fighters should follow his lead.
     
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  13. DodgySyrup

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    When I said "legacy" I meant from his perspective, and in the sense of his resume, his history, and how he perceives himself.

    Maybe, a better word would have been his resume.
     
  14. catchwtboxing

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    I have a feeling the only way Ward will come back is if Usyk wins a heavyweight belt. Ward made some noise about wanting to be a heavyweight champ and having a cruiserweight to fight would be ideal.

    I am not sure I understand the attraction of a Canelo fight. Canelo blasted out a much degraded version of Kovalev, so it in no way threatends Ward's achievement.

    But hey, I would would root for Andre if it happened. Always liked him, even thought I think Kova won the first fight handily.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

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    I don't think that would necessarily be the case this time.

    Assuming Canelo was interested in fighting Ward, and he reached out and said by ready for May - I think Ward would roll the dice and get into the best shape possible. (I wouldn't be surprised if he is closer to being near form than we might suspect).

    This is probably a pipe dream scenario, but I'd love to see it, and I don't think Ward would need more than 1 tune-up, and I think he'd take the gamble on no tune-ups if the price was right. In other words, the mere prospect of a chance to land the Canelo fight is symbolic of "an offer he can't refuse".

    Although, I don't expect Ward to act desperate or overeager. Not his style.
     
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