If you had to choose between...

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're right, M. Now that I think of it -- good as they were -- the fighters I spoke with were not dreadnaughts...so, like all of the human condition, it comes down to who's ox is being gored.
     
  2. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Option 2 for me. The 'junior' divisions do make sense a lot of the time. Multiple champions per weight class don't.
     
  3. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good Some great ideas here.
     
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  5. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem here though that it would be the same one we have in the cruiserweight division now.

    Cruisers beef themselves up to the heavyweight division because that's where the money's at.

    If there is a super-heavy division, you'd get natural 220 pounders beefing themselves up to 235 and over to compete where the money's at. And the money will most certainly be at super-heavyweight.
    People pay big money to see the big dinosaurs go at it. Always have, always will.

    Rather, I'd extend to cruiserwight limit to 220 pounds...but that I guess presents it's own problems.
     
  6. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bit of a problem isn't it, you'd then get people saying we need a super light heavy division :lol:
     
  7. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    or does junior cruiser sound better?
     
  8. Stevie G

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    Me too.
     
  9. fists of fury

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    :D It's always been a problem, hasn't it?
     
  10. MonagFam

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    I agree it has definitely been that way at times. I'd love for it to be viable and popular -- not just a place to stop by or get a title until big money could be made in the heavyweight division.

    I also get what scartissue was saying now about the "fat heavyweight." I was thinking of the natural heavyweights.
     
  11. janitor

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    Don't know if it would work or not, but one option would be to ditch the cruiserweight division, but imprement a superheavyweight division to compensate. You could have say:

    Heavyweight 175lbs-220lbs

    Superheavyweight 220lbs+
     
  12. MonagFam

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    I think I could get behind this idea. It would probably take a situation where bigger fighters were clearly dominating the current landscape.

    Tangent -- Was the era where Marciano was champ (I guess Marciano through Patterson) a fairly small era for heavyweights, or was it historically similar to other eras? Is it that heavyweights have actually gotten bigger, or that bigger heavyweights have just gotten that much better?

    (Obviously we see a dramatic change in size in other sports -- particularly football -- so it may just be inevitible.)
     
  13. ripcity

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    Get rid of 140. It's a usless division.
     
  14. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both, M
     
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    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    108 & 168 hev histori 2 , sam wud kleim det 115 & 122 hed history 2 , I kleim det 190 / 200 hez histori end wil hev mor ez de taim passes , Afolabi vs Huck*3 , Holyfield vs Qawi *2 , Guillermo Jones , O'neil Bell , David Haye , Toney vs Jirov , Orlin Norris , Nate Miller , Bert Cooper , Arthur Williams , Adolpho Washington , Al Cole , James Warring , Juan Carlos Gomez , Imamu Mayfield , Uriah Grant , Hearns , Eubanks hed stints der 2 , Norbert Ekassi , Johnny Nelson , Wayne Braithwaite , Tomasz Adamek , Krzystof Wlodarczyk , Steve Cunningham , Chris Byrd , end i shurli omited e few , end der wil b mor . shur it iz redundant ?


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