Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Rocky Marciano

So, Jimmy Slade, who had 11 KO's in 66 fights KD'd Cockell 5 times and put him out in the 4th. Middleweight Randy Turpin KD'd Cockell 3 times and finished him in 11. The vaunted Aaron Wilson stopped Cockell in 6, Johnny Williams in 2, Dave Goodwin in 7, Jock Taylor in 5...

So, let's fix your statement...

 

you must be my brother by another mother...

 

And Rock destroyed him as well . What is your point. Wlad couldn't stop a journeyman with 20 loses but instead got stopped BY him. He couldn't put Wach, a punchbag with a head down even on a knee over 12.

 

This was not at heavyweight, cockell had problems until he stopped fighting with his weight. Sometimes you get fighters who try too hard and end up getting hurt...this was cockell against marciano. He surpassed himself with his defiance and paid a price, but lets not forget Don also paid his dues as a heavyweight and earned that shot. He was no pete radmacher.

But all this is avoiding Ibeabuchi's world championship credentials. As it stands Ike ibeabuchi's pedigree is no better than where micheal Grant stood before facing Lennox Lewis. Imagine if Grant got himself locked up before his title fight? Would Grant be the champion who never was too?

 

Would you qualify Cockell's chin as wrought iron?

 

My point, my observant friend, is that his chin was anything but the wrought iron you claim it was, unless said iron is rusted through entirely.

And what the **** does this thread have to do with Wlad?

 

Not wrought iron no but he was a defiant brave man going beyond the call of duty.

How about the micheal grant comparison?

 

By you neglecting the power of the Rock by claiming Cokell brushed off 400 of his hardest shots when in fact some guys just refuse to go down, an example being Wach against Wlad.

 

" After their fight, Walcott said,
"With all respect to Joe Louis, Marciano hits harder."

 

you don't have a ****in clue mate.

Chris Byrd was an elite boxer for a number of years. Dismissing his as not even good is just ridiculous bull****.

 

Sure, a Marciano who was swinging for the fences with every punch hits harder than a mummified Joe Louis who was trying to relive his younger days.

You know who else hits harder? The Ike Ibeabuchi who trounced Byrd in 5 rounds, the same Byrd who wasn't KO'd for 7 years despite wading through the punches of Vitali, Wlad, Jameel, Tua and Holyfield.

 

And you know what? Ike could not knock out unremarkable fighters like marrion wilson and anthony wade who others would kayo. Ike also laboured with everton davis a man Jeremy williams, tim withersppon and kirk johnson all did better against in Ike's fight prior to the byrd fight.

There is so little to go on with ibeabuchi. All anyone can say is he was big and looked like he might have been something, but his career was over almost as soon as he got going. He made a name for himself then it was over. We will ever know if he would have been anything. the flawed mentality, in all likelihood was always going to let him down. The two name guys he fought went on to be good fighters but its doubtful it guarantees ike could or would also.

 

Yet he has 2 better wins than Vitali and Wlad the best of the HWs proceeding Lewis. He went toe-toe with the best puncher (arguably) of his era and tracked down and ko'd the best defensive boxer of the era (arguably). That's pretty proven in many ways and he could have got even better with experience.

Despite his size/power/strength he was technically excellent, this is no Sam Peter crudeness, he was technically very good and quick.

What's a shame is if he had trilogies with Wlad/Vitali we may have had a couple of great rivalries and consider this a great era. He was of that level, certainly a level above anyone not named Klitschko in this era.

 

chris was a slippery tryer who could "hold his own"'. He overachived but was never quite elite. Good but limited.

 

Old time nutbags say the darndest things. atsch