Ike Quartey at his best

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  1. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's unbelievable how highly some people think of Quartey on this forum and are quick even to insult me when I'm not that high on him. The thread stated, Ike Quartey at his best and I was assuming that the fighters I picked over him would also be at their best. At his best, who did Quartey beat decisevly for people to be that high on him?

    Floyd at his best is too elusive and smart to lose to Quartey. Cotto is almost at his best now and has a jab to compete with Quartey but also has other assortment of punches that Quartey never had. Mosley at his best is much faster than Quartey and could definintely outwork him for a decision. Margarito is bigger than Quartey and would be at Quartey the whole fight. It's possible that Margarito could out work him just like Vargas. Quartey was definitely amongst the top fighters of his era but the great fighter that some make him out to be he wasn't. Some posters on here that think that they are the most knowlegable because they almost live on here, I have no respect for and won't even respond to anymore.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

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    I had him beating a prime De La Hoya in a close fight. I also had him beating Forrest(as did pretty much everyone) when well past his prime. Otherwise he had dominating performances over Phillips, Cortes, Park, and wins over Carr, and what should've been a win over Jose Luis Lopez.


    Floyd has shown that he is suceptible to the jab, especially pressure behind the jab, as he showed early on against De La Hoya before an old Hoya gassed. Quartey had a better jab than a prime Hoya, and was definitely better than a past prime one. He also never had stamina issues like Hoya. His constant pressure and laser jab would be hell for Floyd, as would his shell defense, which would limit countering opportunities for Floyd to a minimum.

    I'll read no more on this matchup. You simply don't know what you're talking about.

    It seemed Mosley had a bit of a problem with taller jabbers did it not? A past prime Quartey should've gotten the Decision over the same guy who handily beat Mosley twice in Vernon Forrest. This is a terrible matchup for Shane.

    For one, Quartey fought Vargas at 154 when past his prime. For two, Margarito is nowhere near as good as a prime Vargas. Three, Margarito's open style would lead to him getting not only jabbed to oblivion, but also countered to death on the inside. Watch Quartey's fight with a wide, but very active fighter in Jung-Oh Park to see what I mean.
     
  3. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am not a moron. I think that I have some knowledge about boxing because I have boxed and seen a lot of boxing. I don't know what you have done to think that no one knows boxing like you but I'm not impressed. My knowledge is sufficient for this forum and I got plenty of skills to hold my own in real boxing too.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    Maybe you're not a moron, but you don't seem to have seen enough of Quartey to judge him fully. You underrate him, whether by choice or lack of knowledge of the man.
     
  5. Caliboxing

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    You can write 10 more pages on the greatness of Quartey but I saw his fights and I stand by my opinons about him.
     
  6. Spitbucket

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    Regarding DLH/Quartey, I had Quartey ahead 6-5 rounds going into the 12th which was a clear 2 point swing for DLH, easy call IMO!

    Now we can go back and forth about the Ike/Forrest fight, again a close one, but no way IMO did Quartey do enough to get a clear decision.

    You're just going to have accept that we'll never see eye to eye on this and stop assuming that just because you saw it one way that's the way it actually went down. I'm fully aware that my opinion can also be disputed, but in both of these fights I saw what I saw, not what I wanted to see!
     
  7. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had Quartey winning by 1 point. The only way Oscar won that fight is giving him every close round.
     
  8. Spitbucket

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    The same can be said in refuting a Quartey win..

    I think we got us a stalemate:deal
     
  9. ROC

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    And u are a nuthugger, he lost those fight! Now get over it buddy, don't dwell on it!!:-(
     
  10. ROC

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    Your decison to have Ike as the winner in the Oscar fight probably based on your dislike for Oscar but to say that most people had Ike winning is out there, Oscar did more than enough to win that fight
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    I'm a nuthugger of Quartey? That's the only time I've ever been accused of being a nuthugger for anyone outside of Whitaker, and I'm rarely even called that believe it or not. He didn't lose them on my cards, and with my knowledge and experience watching, sutdying, and training boxing, I feel pretty secure with my scores. I won't oblige to another very flawed and biased individual's conclusions when there is no exact science to the art and my score appears better to myself.
     
  12. Sweet Pea

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    He hardly did anything in the middle rounds, when Quartey was rackin em up with the jab and activity. Oscar did good in early rounds, but aside from the final round, he didn't so enough in the middle rounds to win it at all. Though I only did have Quartey winning by a point.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :rofl
     
  14. brooklyn1550

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    NO, IT'S NOT.

    NO, HE DIDN'T DO ENOUGH TO CLEARLY WIN. IT WAS CLOSE EITHER WAY, BUT PUT UP A POLL AND YOU'LL SEE THAT MOST PEOPLE HAD QUARTEY WINNING.
     
  15. dave82

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    I had Quartey winning by a small margin