In order of greatness: Michael Dokes, Tony Tucker, Mike Weaver,

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Tucker
    Weaver
    Dokes
     
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  2. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I loved this point, Fists. I hadn't really appreciated how knock-kneed Mike was so rewatched the Truth fight. Out of interest, I actually thought Carl was the more knock-kneed but neither had anything on either Henry Tillman or (beloved of our own @OP_TheJawBreaker) Merqui Sosa.

    From the waist down those two look like a figure X. So I was just interested to see how you thought it might affect mobility.

    As I watched the Weaver-Wiliams fight, I was struck by how quick the action looked and how in shape the two combatants appeared. It's getting quite rare now in a heavyweight fight not to see jiggling flesh and fast-paced action. These were talented guys who had good amateur experience and had risen to the top in a deep talent pool of black Americans who had been inspired by Ali in the late 60s and early 70s.

    It's a real shame that the 80s is remembered as a decade of talent lost amidst a haze of coke because I am coming to believe that, had a few more of the bigger names stayed clean, it might have been the deepest decade of all in terms of heavyweight talent and could have given us a wealth of top drawer, competitive fights. Of course, it didn't happen but the decade gets sneered at, coming between the two golden ages of the 70s and 90s, while I think, with a fair wind, it might actually have eclipsed them both.

    Woulda, coulda, shoulda. If my aunty had nuts, as I keep saying to @cross_trainer when he throws out an alternative scenario.
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    But what if you didn't dismiss hypothetical scenarios? :cool:
     
  4. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't. Hypothetical scenarios are the point of the board. Otherwise every thread would be 'who do you think won when Ali met Foreman? Frazier met Ali? Tyson and Holyfield in 96?

    As I have said before, your innovative threads are the oxygen of the forum.
     
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  5. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    Weaver was the greatest of the three to me because he overachieved imo.

    I actually think Dokes' handspeed makes him the most talented of the 3 which the other posters seem to disagree.

    Never been that into Tucker. to be fair, mostly seen his fights where he was the opponent (excepting his KO of douglas) and think he maybe get a little too much credit for losing a lopsided decision to Tyson. His hair is the most memorable thing about him to me but I will make a point to go watch some more of his wins.
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I was just kidding -- asking you a hypothetical question about hypothetical questions.

    And thanks!
     
  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At their best:
    Dokes
    Weaver
    Tucker
    Dokes had some great skills before he threw it away
    Weaver had some great performances but he too was inconsistent
    Tucker , I always thought he had more to offer
     
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Weaver

    Dokes

    Tucker
     
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  9. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    I've always liked Tucker. Someone who stays on his feet after a fight with Lennox Lewis, and Mike Tyson (both prime) deserves first place in this trio.
     
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  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I might have it :
    Weaver
    Dokes
    Tucker

    my reasoning is that while Dokes and tucker were very good fighters, weaver fought and beat a lot of top contenders