In Shape '70's Foreman vrs. Any Tyson

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    From the video footage I have seen of Foreman vs Ali and Frazier. I beleve he would not have done very well aganst a prime Tyson. While Foreman was a great puncher I think he was also a bit crude. I know ther is a tendency to compare Tyson Frazier who Foreman easly beat twice. If they are alike Tyson was bige stronger and faster. Tyson's speed and defense are often over looked. That tends to happen when you can hit like he could. Foreman has a punchers chance in this but if both men are still standing after 4 rounds I like Tyson. I can also see Tyson geting a ko within the first four rounds.
    In Shape '70's Foreman vs Post Spinks/pre prison.
    After the Spinks fight we start to see less and less use of the head movement that made Tyson difcult to hit and more and more useing his punching power that would eventuly lead to his downfall at the hands of Douglas.
    If Foreman could land he could get a ko. I think he could land on Tyson but I also think Tyson could land on him. The question hear is who has the stronger chin? Foreman was stoped in 8 rounds by Ali who posesed every thing a great boxer should except power. Tyson was stoped in 10 rounds by Douglas who fought the fight of his life against Tyson.
    I think Tyson's chin would hold up slightly better than Foreman's
    Tyson by late round ko.
    vs. Post Prison Tyson.
    Tyson was allready on the decline before prison.
    I think we would see something that looked a lot like Foreman's two victories over Frazier.
    Foreman by early ko.
    I also think Old Foreman would beat this version of Tyson.
     
  2. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson quit any time he was pressed.
     
  3. elTerrible

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    Frazier was a top 15 heavyweight with a chin.


    No way Tyson takes foreman out in 1. He took 4 rounds to take out a old Larry Holmes.
     
  4. elTerrible

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    It is true to an extent. When has Tyson ever went to war and came out on top?

    Foreman atleast showed he can survive a beating and come back and win in the Lyle fight.
     
  5. elTerrible

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    He wouldnt have made it to the 14th in the absolute war that was Ali-Frazier 3 if his chin was that bad:blood
     
  6. Sweet Pea

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    Tyson would obliterate that version.

    A prime Foreman I have also picked Tyson to beat. Foreman had arguably more raw power, but I'm going against the cliche "puncher beats a swarmer" in this one. I think Tyson's speed and power of his own is enough to hurt Foreman often, especially if someone like Ron Lyle could hurt him by going forward, taking Foreman off his "walk you down" game. Foreman also didn't display nearly as good a chin in his younger days as he did his older days, though he showed a lot better everything else. Tyson would catch him too often, and I don't think Foreman's punches would land clean enough on the quick, bob and weave style of Tyson.

    Tyson by KO against a prime Foreman. TKO against a 90's Foreman, no matter what nonsense Cus or his trainers seem to think of that version of Foreman.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

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    Ruddock.
     
  8. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    I knew you would say that. It doesnt matter, he went 14 hard rounds in an absolute war. He wouldnt have lasted that long if his chin was a "D+" as you say.
     
  9. anut

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    foreman wins:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke
     
  10. AlonzoGreene

    AlonzoGreene Active Member Full Member

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    Foreman easily KO's Tyson.

    One of Tyson's biggest drawbacks was that he was a relatively short heavyweight, and this would kill him against Foreman.

    People are saying that Tyson can easily counter Foreman, but I don't think its that simply.

    In his career, Tyson could counter, but he wasn't what you would call a counterpuncher. Tyson got by on imposing his will own opponents and breaking them down. If Tyson had to adapt or got throw in with an intimating force like Foreman, I think Tyson would breakdown.

    Athletically Tyson was a monster, but he was extremely weak mentality. He would crumble against Foreman or any other bigger elite heavyweight in history.
     
  11. godking

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    In other words you have never actually seen Tyson fight but you have heard the myth about if you you have heart Tyson will quit right ?:roll: :roll: .
     
  12. Sonny's jab

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    The overrating of Tyson here is worse than I thought.
     
  13. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seen tyson fight many times,also seen George fight which you apparently havent ,Tyson is a bully who is a quitter, tyson is made to order for George, Buster Douglas beat down tyson George would break his will and is face in short order.tyson the most over rated Heavy of All Time!
     
  14. godking

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    evidently you did'nt see the Ruddock fights otherwise you would not have made the ridiculous claim that if you are not afraid of Tyson you can break his will.

    When someone is dumb enough to claim that was just a bully that tells me all i need to know.

    You probably never saw any of Tyson 80s fights and you probably heard some guys claim that Tyson will quit if you stand up to him right ? . Then you just repeated that mantra.
     
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  15. UpWithEvil

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    That's Tyson's great defese - Donovan Ruddock didn't kick his ass? Who the heck did Ruddock ever beat? "Broadaxe" Broad?

    Tyson most assuredly WAS a bully. He thrived on intimidation but didn't cotton to being bullied himself. That's why Tyson liked to do things like get himself disqualified intentionally when the going got rough.