Bazooka has a point, sour grapes and all.. that you felt to talk **** in the first place, and then come back 3 years later to **** on him some more. Really ****ing classy there guy.
Well... take someone into your home, feed them, take care of them, teach them, and succeed with that person. Then have that person turn on you, and deny you ever even played a role in there success. Then tell me how you would feel. The three of us made a deal together, formulated a plan. Two of us held true to the plan, and one betrayed the other two. If you don't get that then you are lying to yourself, or you are a person of similar character to Kermit.
to be honest kermit is a ***** whos always looking for excuses. He left manny and started talking **** to him. Manny and chef have both also said cintron is a quiter and that there were times he would stop sparring or training altogether and leave.
Let's just cool down and soak in what conditioner is sharing. How often do you get someone on a boxing forum who's willing to share all this insider info?
That is the point I was trying to make. Had we let Kermit down, and he moved on I would bare him no ill will. the facts are he failed by his own accord, and instead of man up he pointed his finger at Marshall and I and laid the blame on us. I had been under the impression through our friendship at the time that Kermit looked at me as family, and I felt the same way about him. Had I been unable to do the job required of me I would have gladly found a trainer that could. The problem was that for 24 fights we had a formula that succeeded, and the only time it failed was when Kermit deviated from what we had always done. So he moves on to Manny Steward, and to make the situation worse he publicly calls us amateurs, and minimizes the impact we had on his career, and his life. I can not imagine there is anyone that wouldn't be bitter if some thing like that happened to them.
Good stuff, conditioner. From everything I've read on the net, Cintron seems like a mentally fragile dick.
He is just not a good person. He is a bad person in every aspect of his life, and it reveals itself in the ring as well.
I like how some people can't deal with the reality that Kermit is a pecker head. As if simply citing what the mans done is some low life exercise. If Kermit himself was on here not a soul would stick up for him, he'd be flamed in oblivion. I wish I could be a piece of ****, screw people over, and get random people to defend me on the Internet.
:rofl Conditioner...if you had to guess, where do you think Cintron's career goes from here? Will he call it a day, stay around as a journeyman, or rededicate himself and work back up to title contention? It's weird. I would never have thought he'd beat Angulo, but he did and got himself a fight with Williams. Then he looked to push off of his left foot and dive through the ropes, lost a questionable decision, and now gets beat up by Molina. It seems like he'll fade and become completely irrelevant, but I don't know...maybe he can pull off a surprise victory against a young up and comer and get another big 154 pound fight. It's as though you never know what you'll get from him. Ever.
conditioner are you talking about marshall kauffman? Of so ive heard nothing but good things about him by other fighters AND trainers.