Interesting video about Hamed vs Barrera

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  1. TONI_CLIFTON

    TONI_CLIFTON New Member banned Full Member

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    I've always thought it wasn't the real Hamed in that fight. I know Barrera was a big step up but that still wasn't the real Naz. And I hadn't seen him talk about it beofre, with bonus recollections from Manny Steward at the beginning:

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  2. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This stuff has been floating about for a long time. Fact is, Hamed was ALWAYS a lazy trainer. ALWAYS. He always eschewed roadwork. His fans just can't deal with the fact that he was embarrassed by a fellow that had been stopped by Junior Jones.
     
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    There was a documentary b4 the fight which showed how little hamed put into his training and how little respect he had for barerra.
    Hamed is was and always will be a horrible little kunt,but he could have beaten barerra hands down if he was focused,the focus has gone long before barerra tho and his natural ability and huge power always pulled him through.he could have and should have been an all time great but frankly i was buzzing when he got battered by barerra
     
  4. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Quite frankly, Hamed's biggest weakness besides his career long laziness was his ridiculous low boxing IQ. An intelligent technician as tough and talented as MAB is a prime example of kryptonite for someone like Hamed. I've seen many fights of Hamed's and have yet to see a version that would have beaten that version of Barrera.
     
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  5. layco1996

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    It's all wishful thinking and IF's by Hamed's fans that don't want to see reality.
    No version of Hamed would of defeated Barrera, as the saying goes "styles makes fights".
    Hamed's style was tailor made for Barrera, that's the reason Hamed stayed as far away from fighters such as Morales, Marquez, Mayweather...etc.
     
  6. drenlou

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    Barrera exposed Hamed, and fought a totally different fight than Steward and Hamed expected which caught them off guard. Hamed always had problems with boxers with a great jab.
     
  7. Saintpat

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    Got his ears boxed off, taken to school.

    Never gave any credit to the "I didn't train" excuse -- a professional prizefighter's job is to train and prepare for the fight as well as to show up on fight night. If he chose not to do that, it's on him.

    And if that's the case, why did he take one patsy fight after that and quit? Why not rematch and actually train if he thinks he could win?

    I've looked carefully at BoxRec and there's not one fight that I can find where it has an asterisk and says "Has an Excuse." He carries the L forever.
     
  8. Madmink

    Madmink Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hard to see why the bookies had hamed a wide favourite when he was taylor made for barerra.
    Fact is hamed was a cocky fck and got wot he deserved,he made a mockery out of manny steward and basically laughed at his advice and took on suarez who was his yes man.
    Naz could have been more than he was but to laugh at his record as if it was nothing is bull****.
    He didnt fight floyd coz it wasnt a fight back then,marquez wasnt a name,morales would have followed barerra had it gone differently.
    No one in featherweight history especially non american has been as big as naz was in his pomp and that doesnt come without serious talent and selling power
     
  9. Clinton

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    Funny part is, all Hamed had to do was pay attention to MAB v Salud because that's the style MAB utilized against Hamed. There have been Hamed fans on these boards that have claimed that MAB changed his style for the Hamed fight- as if that would be a legitimate excuse(one of so many for that loss)- while conveniently ignoring the Salud fight. Some of his fans have also claimed that Hamed studied MAB's stoppage loss to Jones instead of paying attention to the more recent Salud fight. If that claim is true, that would more proof of how stupid Hamed is especially considering that Jones and Hamed's styles and physicality could not be more different. I wrote this before and will write it again. I've seen many of Hamed's fights and have yet to see any version that would have beaten that version of MAB.
     
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  10. Serge

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    The ''Who's your daddy now?'' bit at the end was just the icing on the cake

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  11. layco1996

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    Why do you think the bookies had Hamed as a wide favorite, if you don't know and didn't care to research it's because Barrera already had 3 losses up to the Hamed fight and he wasn't well know to the casuals. Hamed on the other hand had good selling power and was a big puncher for a featherweight. Your point lacks depth and foundation.

    Don't know where you get that I was laughing at his record, shouldn't even mention it.

    Excuses, excuses and more excuses, Floyd called out Hamed and he ignored the call out. What do you mean Marquez wasn't a name, he had beat Orlando Salido and had a draw with Manny Pacquiao. Nope, Hamed stayed as far away as possible to Terrible Morales. Your excuses are not valid, please answer this which elite fighter had Hamed fought before the Barrera fight? Which HOF in his prime had he fought prior?

    "No one in featherweight history especially non american has been as big as naz was in his pomp and that doesnt come without serious talent and selling power" This point is not relevant to this thread, we're talking about him as a fighter and IF's.
     
  12. Momus

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    This. Hamed's poor training habits crept in long before the Barrera fight.

    Part of this was due to Hamed's personality and psychological make-up, but the sporting culture in the UK of the time, where he was a household name while fighting for WBC International titles, also played a part.

    He was probably past his physical prime by the time he fought Barrera, but the notion that Hamed was invincible until <insert arbitrary point in time> just isn't consistent with his performances in the ring. From the point he entered genuine world class, his performances were inconsistent and he often flirted with disaster.

    Hamed was an exceptional talent who achieved more than he is often given credit for, but there is a lot of revisionist history about his decline as a fighter.
     
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  13. layco1996

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    Totally agree with you. Hamed and Tyson suffer from the WHAT IF syndrome.
     
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    Barrera beats every version of Hamed.
     
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    Hamed is still delusional, nothing new.
     
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