Interview with Angel Heredia, Marquez's "strength coach" before he changed his name.

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  1. ReE13

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    Heredia is as good as Conte when it comes to undetectable PED's, jmm was juiced to the eyeballs but pacs also on PED's.
     
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    Very interesting article. Thanks. I "appreciate" his sincerity and believe what he says. Doping is everywhere in sports and if they really wanted to eradicate it, they would have done it for a long time now.
     
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    memo has a sport and medicial background conte as a background as a bass player.love the way the media (maxboxing) make out like conte is reformed because he gives them quote while they think the man working as a government witness is super shady because he doesn't answer their calls
     
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    For me it was blatantly obvious from the last fight he was on PEDS, a year later he is obviously that much better.
     
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    Much better?

    Apart from the 3rd and 4th rounds, Manny was controlling the fight, doing much better than the 3rd fight. JMM looked quite slow, and got bloodied pretty badly, broken nose etc. The win was down to Manny's carelessness, Juan's exceptional ring IQ and timing, and his new strenght training. Simple as that.
     
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    365 24/7 random testing is what it should be. Props to Nonito Donaire's effort to clean the sport, not like Floyd's 2-month random test only.
     
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    Drug tests are meaningless if they can't detect anything. Heredia and others have this down to a science and know exactly what to do to avoid detection.

    As the article stated, it all depends on how much money the athlete wants to spend. If you have little money, you might get caught given the low quality of the PED but the more money an athlete has, the more time Heredia can dedicate to building a PED that is harder to detect.
     
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    I haven't really followed the "story" but aren't you supposed to GTFO from here for 2 months ? :hat
     
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    couldnt help it haha. maaaaan it's hard to get out of this addicting place:lol:


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    Good for cheating or something else?:lol:
     
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    Yeah it's hard I know. :yep You have to be strong son.
     
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    Did you also tell your wife Marquez had Been top 5 pfp before heredia came into the picture? I bet you didn't .
     
  13. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He also got dropped by Katsidas at 135lb. Still if you watch the last round, he has excellent punch placement and timing to stop Katsidas, but it took a lot of shots to get the job done.
     
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    Like I said. I'm not accusing anyone of wrong doing, just stating, would anyone be suprised if one or all the guys I mentioned got popped for using PED's. Don't get me wrong , Marquez, and Pac are among my fav fighters and I would be pissed if they are dirty but, to ignore the facts before us would be foolish. Just making an observation, nothing more.
     
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    I didn't read all the posts, but here's my take:

    Marquez could have hired any freaking conditioning, strength and nutrition coach on the planet. But he chooses this guy. Why would he do that if he did not require this particular coach's skill set?

    Had the main objective been to gain conditioning and strength and at the same time staying clean, there were so many better choices for a coach.

    That was that.

    What about Pac, then? Well, I am not up to speed here, but one does not have to be a rocket scientist to spot patterns like the one I outlined above.

    No facts here. Just my 2c.