Irish Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ardy, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Me too.
     
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    fra Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea we all want to see that luke... make it so:good
     
  3. dutchie

    dutchie Active Member Full Member

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    All we can do is go by current rankings,peoples opinions are bound to be different.below is boxrec top 5 British isles.

    1.Andy Lee.
    2.Cej.
    3.Bjs.
    4.Nick Blackwell.
    5.John Ryder.
     
  4. lencoreastside

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    Well thanks but really I want your opinion - list your personal top 5.......
     
  5. dutchie

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    Spike in instead of Blackwell at 4.,keep the rest the same.
     
  6. lencoreastside

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    Blackwell BJS CEJ top 3 - cant make up my mind which order. Andy 4. Cant decide who is 5 - prob not Ryder....probably Spike.
    Very decisive Len I know! I m better at head-to -heads though! :)
     
  7. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1.Andy Lee
    2.BJS
    3.CEJ
    4.Quigley (Yup, I believe even now he'd beat the likes of Blackwell and Ryder)
    5.Spike
     
  8. BK99

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    I find it interesting that you think Quigley will have no bother beating Cummings down the line. Quigley barely s****ed past Cummings in their two senior bouts - most recently the time that Quigley went on to win out the seniors followed by Euro gold and World Silver (so Quigley at his peak) - and apparently that fight could have genuinely went either way!

    On top of that, many would argue that Cummings' style as an amateur was actually more suited to the pros than Quigley's.

    Now I know that Quigley has made the transition to pro in a far more impressive manner than many might have anticipated (i.e. he wasn't heavy handed as an amateur), but I believe that, all factors considered, it should be classed as a 50/50 down the line.
     
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    Misprint or typo at number 4 Limerickbox. Obviously you didnt mean unproven Quigley already beats Blackwell? :p
     
  10. McGuinty

    McGuinty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But Cummings doesn't fight the same way as a pro.
     
  11. marty

    marty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Goldenboy have tendancy to feed there prospects "duds" for the first several fights giving a false impression of power from the prospect. We wont know how hard Quigley is punching until he faces moderate opposition at least.
     
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    MGM are promoting another show in Dublin on Feb next year and will be broadcast on Boxnation
     
  13. mattdonnellon

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    I think it's a popular myth that strong, go-forward, two-handed, pressure amateurs make very good pros, i think they tend to make solid pros? Movement, dynamism and brains are what separates top ams and this for the greater part carries into the pros. Chin, stamina and fortitude are what catches some top amateurs out.
     
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    So? What is your point, McGuinty?
     
  15. McGuinty

    McGuinty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By comparing their amateur fights to the pro game. Cummings was a pressure fighter as an amateur but hasn't really fought that way as a pro, so their amateur fights should have no comparison on a pro fight between them, should it happen.

    I think Quigley wins if they fight.