Irish Boxing

I don't know. Did he? Even if he did, that hardly made him responsible for Darren's death, did it?

 

No it doesn't, but if it was my son that had died and he was asking for money, i'd of smashed his cross dressing jaw clean off.Discusting thing that he is. He showed his true colours when Manny Steward died and what the Klitchkos would think of his death " They'll be happy they don't have to pay him the 10% fee"..Dont be sticking up to much for him, there's obviously more to it, and what we do know is hes a nasty little mess !

 

You don't like Maloney do you! Lot of "ifs" in there. Do we know for sure he demanded money from Darren's family.....or is that a "nasty little mess" of a rumour?

The people best positioned to have known all about Darren's depressive illness were Darren himself and his immediate family. Maloney was a relative stranger to Darren....a newcomer in Darren's life. Was there full disclosure about his illness?
If Darren's father covered it up so as to make money out of Darren's boxing career then he isn't entirely blameless himself.
Pro boxing is a lonely business. The teammates and support structure from the amateur game were no longer around him...he was left alone in a foreign country. Hardly the best of circumstances for someone with Darren's serious problems....and THAT cannot be blamed on his new foreign manager, cross-dresser or otherwise, in fairness.

 

Yes it was confirmed, it was common knowledge to be fair..Jesus, you stick up and give Maloney the benefit of the doubt, then start on the lads Dad with unsubstantiated claims yourself. I take it you know the Klitschko-Maloney situation i'm on about???? Then it wouldn't be too hard to imagine what a nasty little man he was with regards to the money he wanted back off the Sutherlands..Ask about on here if you are not quite sure its true from me !

 

Jesus some very serious videos flying about social media about a prominent Irish amateur boxer from the North,
Serious stuff if true and could well cost him his place on the Commonwealth team,

 

That's the second post in a row that mentions Jesus! Don't ye know you can't mention God anymore! It's not politically correct, apparently.

Seriously puca ...for those of us that "predate" social media ....could you elaborate a bit please....what's going on with the boxer...???

 

I apologise if i offended your sensitive nature Len,
One of the boxer picked to box for the NI team has allegedly had carnal knowledge with one maybe 2 young ladies that were under the age of legal consent,
A vigilante group have a video of him been confronted of the crime with proof and being led away by the police the young man himself has come out with his own video stating he was not arrested, he was taken away for his own safety he says and the matter is with his solicitor,

 

Some nasty comments there about Darren's family. Not cool, not cool.

 

Very not cool. Twisted even. Kellies a bollix and its the first time I've heard anyone stick up for it !

 

So we can't talk about this kinda stuff, Marty? A trajic, and possibly preventable death of one if our leading young boxers?
Sorry Marty, but Darren's father went public attacking Maloney. He put himself in the public domain on this one. Blaming him effectively. Now THAT is not cool for me. Am I not entitled to disagree with him?
I have close personal experience of a very similar situation myself. Cool doesn't come into this. Nasty doesn't either. (The parents in this case also lashed out at the wrong man too.)

Any responsible person with knowledge of bipolar would never have allowed Darren to be all alone in a foreign country in his vulnerable state. It was a recipe for disaster.
He needed to be supervised in a supportive environment and taking his Meds etc..(he almost certainly never should have been allowed to turn pro at all, but that's neither here nor there).
Blaming Maloney is not right IMO. Saying my comments are nasty isn't right either.

By the way it was reported at the time that the "heartless" Maloney was so shocked by Darren's death that he himself had a heart attack on the spot! Hardly the actions of a ruthless exploiter.

 

I couldn't care less about Maloney. Don't know him from Adam.
Look ....you came in here makinG accusations against a man who was:
a) not here to defend himself and
b) was not, and more importantly could not have been responsible.

I simply stood up for truth and justice. Since we were talking about "responsibility" I simply pointed out that there were people much better positioned than a foreign manager to have been aware of Darren's problems. Sorry if this caused offence,

 

Yeah facts. Painful response ! I accused him of wanting the signing on fee back, you went on a wild tangent defending god knows what. I would understand if you were related to Maloney or friendly with him, but your not. You didn't bring up his cruel response about Manny Steward did you ??? Who said he was responsible for the suicide ????? Very twisted posts from you here

 

Pmsl...Again, I mentioned "if" once and it was related to what I would do

 

I know what you said....that you would beat up a man for asking for his money back. Commendable. Now if you could park the righteous outrage for a second....would you concede that maybe, just possibly...your "hypothetical son" would have been better served if you had not allowed him to be in that position in the first place?

Let me be clear....if Maloney was fully informed, and he still agreed to manage poor Darren, then he is either the thickest Cnut ever, with boxing manager skills on a par with general custers military skills, or a despicable ruthless exploiting *******. I don't know.

What I do know is that poor Darren should never have been in that position in the first place.

 

Yeah it was a very thinly veiled secret that the iaba were paying for regular counselling for darren,
Not sure about his meds but either way you do not get that type of babysitting in the pro game,
I would liken it to college after secondary school,
Living away from home in a bedsit apartment,if you dont turn up for training there is nobody knocking on your door,A tough existence for anyone never mind somebody with psychological issues,
If Maloney asked for the signing on fee before the funeral then that was a ***** move no doubt but as Len is saying the family knew the extent of Darrens issues better than anyone,and maybe should have known that environment wasnt the best for him at that time,Sad no matter how you look at it,