Is Andy Lee too big for BJS?

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  1. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BJS is definitely the better technical boxer, but seeing them at the head to head Lee towers over BJS and looks a weight class above.

    No we all know that theory that the challenger ''has to take the belt away from the champion'' but if BJS gets himself into a dog fight he is going to open himself into that big right hook of lee's.

    What would be your game plan for bjs?
     
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    B.A.S. Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think Lee has looked all that recently and has relied on a show stopping punch to get the W. If BJS can keep his cool and box and move, as well as improve on his stamina from the CEJ fight then I don't see any reason why he can't win on a wide UD. Don't think he needs to go in with the challengers mentality on this occasion.
     
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    do you think it being on his home promoters show will help that?

    bjs can out box lee no doubt
     
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    The size difference is the crux of the matter as you say Terry.
    It will be very hard for BJS to stay away from such a big mans power while at the same time engaging sufficiently to win rounds and get points in the bag. No 2 ways about it Billy Joe has only one way to win - a points decision. No way is feather-fisted BJS ko-ing iron chinned Andy.
    Im counting on the big gulf in boxing skills enabling BIlly Joe to pull off an upset here, but it is a big ask.
     
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    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what i mean and at points in the fight, bjs is going to have to put himself in the line of fire.

    I think lee hits alot harder then eubank jr for a single shot and he is also Booth likely devising a master gameplan.

    I think bjs can nick rounds like he does but I just think Lee is a geuine middleweight and im not sure that bjs is.

    When i stood next to him he honestly looked about 5ft 8
     
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    If BJS had proper professional diet & training he would be a light-middle, and not even a particularly big one at that!
     
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    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maybe even welterweight mate.

    steve liilis told me when i bumped into him in the street, that he eats ready meals for dinner.
     
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    This saddens me with regard to BJS - because he's such a good boxer, he's honestly great to watch, but he really isn't a middleweight. It's surprising to me that Jimmy Tibbs hasn't had a word to Billy about moving down a weight, because he himself fought in the wrong weight class and speaks about how he regrets not moving down in weight.
    But Saunders doesn't really live the life, blows up to around 13.5 stone in between fights and I've heard people say that he likes to drink and eat rubbish. Such a shame.

    Do I think Lee is too big? Possibly, but I still think Billy can outbox him, and my pick is BJS 116-112 UD.
     
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    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is one of the best pure boxers we have in the uk and so far has a very good resume beating Eubank, Spike, Ryder, blackwell, fletcher etc but Lee imo is better then all of these guys.
     
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    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    styles make fights strangely enough I think CEJ would beat Lee with a bit to spare, as I do not think Lee has a power/strength advantage of him. Lee v BJS is a pick em as i on one hand see Lee is alot bigger (BJS should fight at LMW) and has a big punch power advantage but BJS is far more skilled. Lee can only beat him by stoppage imo and Billy can only beat him on points imo, normally i am decisive one way or another on big fights but not this one, though if it goes to points Billy i feel wins and wins quite well.
     
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    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very very good ****ysis.

    cant argue with any of that bud
     
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    Correct - good summing up of the situation. :thumbsup
     
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    Whats this.....backing the Irish fighter, are we? :lol: :lol:
     
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    BJS did not gas at all. He was playing it safe in the final rounds.

    Like Man city would if they were beating liverpool 3-0
     
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    I like BJS, but he only narrowly beat both Ryder and CEJ and against Ryder I scored him losing the fight by a round.

    The price on Andy Lee is ridiculous in my opinion, just look at the level he's operated against in comparison.

    I know he's not a pressure fighter but I do expect him to start walking BJS down later in the fight and I think he will win to be honest.