**Is Berto another hyped job....**

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The Simms train was one I never understood.
     
  2. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The defense and the chin are definitely worries...but I think the movement thing is apart of a bigger problem. He's more or less just skating by on his ability in there. He doesn't move well because his opponents are so lackluster that it's effortless for him.

    He strikes me as a lazy sort of boxer when he's not punching and when he meets someone who punches back, it's gonna be a problem for him.
     
  3. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    Berto is a puncher (maybe boxer/puncher?) who likes to come forward and bang away.
    Like every other puncher sooner or later he will be (easily) outboxed when facing a skilled a-level fighter. That day may come after a few years from now.. but it will come.

    NB.: everyone is beatable, but a puncher (De Leon, Darchinyan) will be sooner figured out then a boxer (Floyd, LL)

    Peace !
     
  4. pirlo

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    Berto should fight Quintana. Andre would blow him out from the ring under 8 rounds :)
     
  5. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Berto is way to hittable, and movement doesn't seem to come naturally to him at all. Against someone accurate who hits hard, he'll probably get obliterated. He has great handspeed, and he's become much better at mixing up his punches, but that's about all he has on his side. Also, I'm pretty confident that he'll end up having stamina problems.
     
  6. Sweet Pea

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    Would you like to make a bet if that fight is ever made? I side with Quintana, and would've prior to Quintana's fight with Williams as well.

    And as for one of the posts above regarding Ponce De Leon, he will be figured out as soon as he faces anybody good period. He is awful.
     
  7. pirlo

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    No problem shawty. You think Quintana good cause Williams gave him victory without even trying ?
     
  8. TFFP

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    Berto is definitely one to be exposed, havn't liked some of his work. Defence isn't great, and his chin looks a bit wobbly

    He puts some nice combinations together mind, prefer him to Williams

    Williams fights like a scared school boy. Flicking out pitty patty shots, no authority in his work whatsoever, poor defense. Basically, he only got where he was because of freakish size and weight draining, combined with a decent work-rate. His timing and sense of distance is woeful, and his work-rate is limited against a sound boxer that can time him
     
  9. Keihule

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    I think berto is for real, hits hard, strong guy, well conditioned, very accurate.
     
  10. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    cotto ws by no means brough along slowly. from his 17th fight he has been taking on soli fighters. former contenders, and true prospects. not the SUSPECTS that they have been feeding berto.

    cotto's 17-21 fights

    demetrio ceballos - fought for 140 title

    carlos maussa - undefeated prospect future title holder

    victoriano sosa - fought for 135 title 2 of three losses to pbf and spadafora

    lovemore ndou - solid contender future titlle holder

    kelson pinto - undefeated prospect

    berto 17-21


    norberto bravo - 23-12-2

    martinus clay - 12-14

    cosme rivera - fought zab for ww title 30-10-2

    david estrada - 21-2 fair fighter no power

    michel trabant - brought in to lose.

    so truly there is no comparison in level of oposition between the 2. imo berto looks good, but how much of that is due to the poor level of oposition, and how will he respond to a higher level of fighter, if they continue to face sub par fighters. you cannot properly prepare to face the elite by fighting low level fighters
     
  11. cougnuts510

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    he has the goods but his chin will be his downfall
     
  12. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    deleon has already been figured out. so much so he has never talked about avenging his only loss.
     
  13. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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    Fool...Williams lost his title in embarrsing fashion, Judah is coming from two rebounding wins and so is Collazo, who beat Haton even though the score didn;t show that...and lost to SSM.....so what is so wrong about the list fool those are the last two spots....
     
  14. BigReg

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    How is Cintron ahead of Margo when Margo completely destroyed Cintron?
     
  15. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    its his PR bias