Is Cotto still undefeated?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by orlando1145, May 16, 2009.


  1. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is this subject up again? Besides the obvious lack of proof, it could easily be argued the punch output, pressure, granite chin and will of Margarito had a lot more to do in winning the fight than his punching power. Yes Cotto got busted up quickly which is suspicious, but he was also getting hit too much, and playing macho with Margo for too long. Let a rematch shine a better light on the first fight :good
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    There's no proof he cheated.

    Plus Vegas issues there own Gauze and tape.
     
  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Okay. And no one was looking with the Mosley fight either.


    on top of it.

    Everything in vegas is done fresh in front of the inspector. Meaning nothing can be prepared two weeks prior.

    Because Vegas issues there own gauze and tape,
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I know he did something wrong in the Mosley fight. You obviously don't pay attention to the Margarito threads.

    There is absolutely no proof he cheated against Cotto. It would be very hard.

    Now do I believe he cheated in other fights? Yes I do, but I can't say he cheated against Cotto because there is no proof what so ever.
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Cotto head hunted and lacks the defense to protect from an uppercut. Margos punches are slow, but when you decide to stop moving. It's easier to hit.
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    so this of course proves margo used plaster against cotto, lol. you do live up to your handle, i only wished your screams had some substance. its not often a poster comfirms his stupidity in so few posts, congratulations. and ive only stumbled across a handfull of your posts. i can only imagine the jewels ive missed.
     
  7. eze

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    Im not giving him anything.

    You are assuming he cheated against Cotto because he beat him up badly.

    Cotto refused to go the body. Head hunted all night and it did not effect Margo.


    Also, In california, they do not issue fresh gauze, you use your own. While in vegas you use the gauze thats given to you on fight night.


    Very hard for Margo to cheat against Cotto or any vegas fight.
     
  8. BIGMAKK1005

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    lets not make this a nuts conversation man please i beg of you. some might say he is others ma think he isnt. he is a top contender/champion in his prime that everyone unerrates and has good boxing skills, fair pop in both arms, awesome defense, questionable stamina and a good record. for me an A class fighter should at least have four of the things i just said he has them, then for me he is. u see this is called difference of opinion wich im entitled too and so are u so lets leave it at i think he is u dont see it that way.
     
  9. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    A loss with an asterisk, but still a loss. hth.
     
  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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  12. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No asterisk necessary.
     
  13. applez

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    the loss will always be on his record, but I dont give credit to cheaters like marg, so in my mind cotto is still undefeated.
     
  14. Stovepipe

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    Well if you want to second guess the result due to Margarcheato, who almost assuredly had loaded gloves for the Cotto fight, than lets also second guess all his wins too, to be fair. Were any of them controversial? Could the contoversy effect the result of the fight?

    Coyote Duran made a case that you could score Malignaggi the winner of their fight. Sounds crazy cuz Malignaggi was so beat up in their compared to Miguel, but he won rounds and wobbled Cotto late. Personally I would have to watch again and read the article again its been a long time.

    What about that fight against who was it? Corley? Wasn't their some BS there in Puerto Rico?

    Mosley? I rewatched and thought Cotto pulled it out. But Mosley is an ass for not taking the remach in New York I think he should win a rematch.

    Cotto got hurt by Torres but came back to win. He seemed to get into a lot of trouble weight drained at 140.

    Personally Cotto has my sympathies on this one. But where was Nazim when we needed him? Where the hell are the commissions and the other trainers? This is embarassing. Boxing can be depressing all the time with this crap.

    All Margocheato fights have an asterisk by them. OF course they do.

    YEs, you can make the argument that Cotto is an undefeated fighter because no man deserves to get hammered with loaded gloves like that.