Is Daniel Dubois more evolved than Carl Williams and Ron Lyle

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ron Lyle: 6'3, 220

    Carl Williams: 6'4, 225lb

    Daniel Dubois: 6'5, 245lb

    Would new age skilled athletic super heavyweights like Dubois would clear any era pre 1990s ?
     
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    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think he's got enough to beat Williams

    To the second point, no. Dubois lost to usyk and was on the canvas vs lerena who are closer in size to past heavyweights and dubois has shown vulnerability.

    I do think size plays a massive part in heavyweight boxing but it's not an absolute marker for superiority
     
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  4. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think he's even as evolved as Cleveland Williams.
     
  5. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dubois has a chin issue. He’s got size, strength, power, explosiveness, but that chin is an issue.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Dubois is a Glass Jawed Fighter. You can’t train a Chin.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    glass jaw and glass heart.
     
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  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Daniel isn’t 6’5”. He’s about 6’ 3 1/2 “ or so in reality.

    Usyk is more like 6’2” himself.

    Not to be mean but Dubois also has an elongated melon - so even when eye to eye with someone, he would likely still measure as taller, FWIW. :lol:
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I don’t think that DDD necessarily has a glass chin, but his commitment in the past can be questioned I guess.

    At least in his last fight, he did get dropped by a peach of punch which discombobulated him but didn’t see him completely out.
     
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  10. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's not be fooled into thinking Dubious wouldn't wreck most of these old what-nots just because the GOAT boxer beat him. Of course Dubious is going to quit against some of them, tough ones who withstand some punishment then grind him down. Even Purity beat Wlad that way. Tough fighters can always be a problem.
    But in general he's going to destroy them like he did AJ.
    Also a nice guy, smiles in interviews and doesn't curse on TV.
     
  11. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dubois is a fragile child compared to Lyle.
     
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