Is Duran an overrated lightweight?

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  1. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Greatest LW ever.
     
    robert ungurean, Aug 11, 2012
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  2. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Sorry Bokaj, i meant to say he had lost some speed by the third bout, not rematch.

    and then after the rubber he went downhill quickly.
     
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  3. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was weight drained for.the rubber match. DeJesus not Duran.
     
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    HairyHighlander BASS !! HOWLOWCANUGO ?? Full Member

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    Quality post/info......kinda cold.
     
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  5. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What LW would you favor over him h2h? This is where Duran thrives and is the main reason he is held in such high regard historically.
     
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    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A rematch with Buchanan wasn't justified since it was a one-sided demolition.
     
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  7. Senor Pepe'

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    I wouldn't discount Ken Buchanan in 1973 or 1974,

    He was 'miles' better than Masataka Takayama who lasted less than 1-Round
    in December 1974.

    It was clearly a desired bout by the boxing world.

    Ken was ranked as the #2 Lightweight in 1973, and #3 in 1974.

    Not sure what 'Planet' Masataka Takayama was on that ranked him in the Top 10.
     
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  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Duran was beating Buchanon in one sided fashion but the ending wasnt the way you want to settle something. Buchanon won about 13 fights in a row after that and he probably deserved a shot.
     
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    I don't see anyone with the exception of Benny & Gans who could rate higher than him at LW. I rate Leonard 1 and go back and forth between Duran & Gans for the 2 spot. Just about everyone rates him in the top 3, so that rating seems fair.

    I guess if you find him to be outside of the 3 greatest Lightweights, than you could say he was over rated....but more likely rating him outside of the top 3 is under rating.

    I would say he is rated right where he should be!
     
    PhillyPhan69, Aug 11, 2012
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  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Mosley.



    Yeah, I'm going there. He'd **** everyone at 135 that Duran fought, I'm superbly confident in that.
     
    turbotime, Aug 11, 2012
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  11. lora

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    Mosley was a hack
     
    lora, Aug 11, 2012
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  12. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    At 154. Not 135.
     
    turbotime, Aug 11, 2012
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  13. Manassa

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    And Williams. The other two are above, I agree, but not by very much at all. It's about the same gap that separates Sanchez and Pep. Williams, to me at least, looks extremely good on film.

    Saying that, Ortiz has to be on the same level as Williams as well.
     
    Manassa, Aug 11, 2012
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  14. Senor Pepe'

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    It is unfortunate,,,,,,

    But Roberto may have been one great Light-Welterweight Champion,
    as the opportunity was there for the taking.
     
    Senor Pepe', Aug 12, 2012
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  15. Hands of Iron

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    Fascinating. Didn't you post another article circa 1977-78 in which Carlos Zarate was considered the best fighter 'P4P' at the time?
     
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