Is duran slightly overrated as an ATG?

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  1. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    You can't have a teenage daughter and have that kind of view about Duran, unless you were having her when you are 15 and even then I still think you learn nothing about boxing lol.
     
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  2. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Manny Floyd and pernell are all top 30 ATG.
    I have no problem if you say they will be competitive or even beat him, although I disagree.
    The rest of the names you mentioned are at least naturally 2 weight classes above him.
    You do know Duran had over 70 fights at lightweight and already an ATG even if he didn't move up.
     
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  3. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was 34 when he fought a Prime Hagler and Hearns way past his best...
     
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  4. recycling

    recycling Active Member Full Member

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    an atg lost to estaban? wow. realistically estaban would not even last todays lightweight.
     
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  5. Neebur

    Neebur Active Member Full Member

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    No. Dejesus would be a serious force in this era. And Duran lost to Dejesus in a ten round non title fight. Pretty much the same as Floyd having a bad day sparring Spadafora. Duran avenged that loss twice in REAL fights. One of them being a masterclass in boxing.
     
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  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I will say this... considering he's usually ranked anywhere 5-15 on ATG lists, how great are wins #2-8 or #9-20 on his "best wins list?" (so to speak)

    Having said that. I too rate him in the above mentioned range, even if I have been souring on him a bit the last couple years.
     
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  7. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    @Neebur already covered it, so I will leave it at that.
     
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  8. Davo

    Davo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duran was a small man who had no business getting in thee ring with those men. The fact he even fought them shows just how ATG he was.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes. From June 1980 to June 1984 among others Duran fought SRL x 2 (back-to-back), Wilfred Benitez, Pipino Cuevas, Davey Moore, Luigi Minchillo, and Hagler and Hearns (back to back).
     
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  10. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You’re right, we’re not on the same level. I’m spending Father’s Day at the beach with my wife and kids. Meanwhile, you’re waking up in your mother’s basement to spend time with “Manuela” before hitting up your dad for the keys to his Oldsmobile.
     
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  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did someone really just **** about the fantastically skilled, HOF level Esteban De Jesus? One of the finest lightweights of a golden era for the weight class.

    Don't even say the man's name you uneducated oaf, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. :lol:
     
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  12. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    You stole my response. wink
     
    JacK Rauber, Jun 17, 2018
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  13. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most skilled and best overall boxer that I'ver ever seen. Can't understand him not making someone's top 10 ATG list. Was an absolutely rabid savage of an animal.
     
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  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Typical deck stacking cherrypicker
     
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  15. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Duran Moore. 35 years ago today
     
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