Is GGG An Alltime Great?

Hagler wouldn't stop Derevyanchenko in the first round. He might stop him late. Derevyanchenko is no joke, and Golovkin was 37, not well, fighting under a new trainer and he still won. Was Hagler almost losing to Duran, who is a blown up lightweight, a sign of greatness? What about losing to a blown up welterweight Leonard, who hadn't fought in 3 years? Greatness? Remember, Golovkin previously KO'D (18) of the last 20 successful title defenses. Does Golovkin struggling with the tough as nails Derevyanchenko negate all those destructive title defenses? Of coarse not. Nor does Haglers loss to Leonard negate Haglers 12 title defenses. Hagler is still great.

 

People are getting way too stingy while gatekeeping certain designations. 30% don't think GGG is an ATG. Lol. Wut. Hes got over 20 title wins at MW. If you don't want to rank him in your top 10 cause MWs been around 150 years and theres so many great fighters awesome good for you. I don't know how you look at that resume and say hes not an ATG.

 

Facts

 

if he were black or American, or both, he’d be in their ATG lists

 

Forgot about him

GGG would have killed him

 

My ignore list expanded by several after I saw the morons in this thread

 

I was looking forward to seeing GGG dismantle him, even though I like Kid Chocolate.

 

Ahem, Derevyanchenko beats the paste out of 37 year old Hagler, who retired at 32 and was looking on the verge of being shot when he did retire. I posted that just to remind people that when we look at GGG "struggling" we are looking at the efforts of a fighter who is OLD in boxing terms and past his prime.

 

Yep, I agree, and Golovkin's biggest fights with Canelo are when he was 35 and 36. He still looked great and did the job.

 

It’s hard to make direct comparisons like that.

Marvin couldn’t fight at GGG’s age. Which is a huge compliment to GGG.

However, GGG didn’t fight almost 70 fights like Marvin did.

And if he had’ve done, he could also have retired earlier.

Nobody knows.

Regarding the thread, I’d say that he was an ATG.

But he has a weak resume. It’s not his fault, but it’s just the way it is.

 

Correct. That is my point.

This is where I bring up GGG's 350 amateur fights and where you say amateur fights are not the same as pro fights and where I say that yabbut they are still over 1000 rounds in the ring and you say ya but headgear and where I point out that amateurs still get KOd.

It's hard to make direct comparisons like that

 

Yes, I'm just saying it was a close fight. Unfortunately you GGG fans worship the guy more than Christians worship Jesus, so any remotely positive remarks about his opponents cause mental breakdowns on you lot.

 

We all know GGG's mere presence caused his opponents to die out of fear (unless they were a moving-up Canelo of course, then GGG got his ass kicked). I once heard Wladimir ducked GGG out of fear that his lethal punches might send his head across the continent.

 

20 successful defences of his middleweight title and he beat three world ranked fighters after his reign ended.I thought he beat Canelo in the first two fights of their trilogy and I couldn’t care less if people say Canelo deserved to win the second fight.Canelo lost that fight.