Canelo's career, broken down: Kovalev - shot fighter who was screwed with a short camp and a rehydration clause Jacobs - Close fight where Canelo got lit up. Jacobs was weight drained Fielding - weakest "titelist" available who was weight drained Golovkin x2 - old fighter whose career was "one big showcase fight" (arguably lost both times) Chavez Jr - AKA Cheeseburger Junior, weight drained into uselessness Smith - puny super welter that couldn't even beat Munguia Khan - Lightweight with a china chin LOL Cotto - shot super lightweight. Arguably lost. Mexican newspapers called it "Robo en Las Vegas" because they thought Cotto won .... need I go on? Anybody's career can be rubbished, but most of all, your career as poster. You manage to consistently post the biggest turds on the forum, congratulations.
It's a damn good jab in a boxing world with very few good jabbers anymore. All time top 10? Who gives a ****.
If you have a **** jab, it doesn't automatically look great versus lower level competition. DO you even know how to use your eyes and understand what you are looking at???
“Tainted beef” ranks up there with “Costume too heavy” and David Hayes big toe as some of the funniest stuff I’ve ever read.
Let's not leave out Junior Jones. Guy was nice. Also, GGG's jab is def an A. It's a thudding jab. Power jab. Mark's up a dudes face no doubt. But if there is a top 10 he isnt in it. Off the top of my head I like Hearns, Junior Jones, Holmes, Leonard, Lennox in no particular order to name a couple.
He definitely has a very good jab , but other guys form his era like Groves and Kovlaev had a jab that was just as good , so I would say no for top 10.
Not that I buy the excuse but being objective you must acknowledge that there is scientific evidence supporting the fact that clenbuterol can show up in your system from beef
I didn't say Joppy and Brewer had "elite" jabs. I said their jabs were on par with Golovkin's. All 3 had "great" jabs that could control fights (golovkin because it's a power jab, Joppy and Brewer because of their jabs' versatility). For example, Joppy and Brewer both had very educated jabs that they could snap from the hip, from the shoulder, could double and triple it, could measure, could counter with it. They had excellent jabs. Don't confuse my point with who you believe would win in a contest (Golovkin would be favored obviously). As for Winky, Winky's jab was most definitely elite.
Sure, ok. I didn't know you wanted to change the topic of the thread to Canelo. I'm not making a case of Canelo having an ATG jab or being an ATG right here am I?
No. I support the science that to get to the levels Canelo tested at, with his body weight and height, for which he earned a six month ban, he would have had to eat tainted beef three meals a day for two days straight prior to testing. Stop now. Stop forever. Canelo cheated, was punished for it and moved on. Please follow his lead.
Among middleweights or Kazakhstanis maybe. If you mean all time as in all time, unqualified...well then L-O- fucking L.
His jab looked like a useless range finder against Canelo Constantly falling short with little behind it as he screeched internally in terror waiting for Clenelo's counter Fury's jab in the second Wilder fight, now if Fury can do that every fight that's an ATG jab in the making.