Is Harry Greb a top 3 light heavyweight H2H?

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  1. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Grebs record vs lt heavyweights is unquestionable. Why he generally is not rated in this division is his weight.....he was not a light hwt and the fact that with all his success he never won the worlds light hwt championship.
     
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    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Possibly due to the 'fact' he was never afforded the opportunity to fight for that title....???? I think he would have been a solid favorite to win it according to his record.
     
  3. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The facts are when one puts together a top ten list it would GENERALLY be titles "top ten world light hwt champions". Since Greb never won that title he would automatically be excluded from that list regardless of the reason.
     
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    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then I suppose some historian's grading criteria and evident reality are different categories...I would choose evidential reality as to being the more factual approach personally.
     
  5. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The idea is if a fighter was never the champion he can't be rated in a top ten ATG champion listing. Charlie Burley is another example. Greb however was middleweight champion and is rated very high in this category.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Then that would exclude :
    Charles
    Tunney
    Langford
    Greb
     
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  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course.
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Ezzard Charles is routinely ranked the number 1 LHW.
     
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Boxing historians and those with great knowledge have always understood and known that Charles is one of the best ever LHW talents.
     
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    Not proven enough for Perry.
     
  11. mcvey

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    Yes , but I don't know that he would have beaten Tunney.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Well I'm neither, but I understand it too!
     
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    That would be an incredibly boring fight but I give the edge to Charles.
     
  14. janitor

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    I suspect that it would have been more exciting than people think.
     
  15. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Light hwt FIGHTERS YES.

    LIGHT HWT CHAMPIONS....NO.

    Why? Because he was never Light hwt champion.