Is Hasim Rahman's two best wins better than Fury's?

Lewis > Old Wlad
Wilder > Sanders

There’s a good argument for every option, interesting question.

 

So it's a prime Lennox Lewis who was 2 years shy of retirement and out of shape going into the fight yet Fury's win gets diminished as a "has been" Wlad who was 18 months shire of retirement yet in great shape and undefeated for 11 years ?

Lol.

 

Fury's wins over Wlad and Wilder are better IMO, especially since Lewis came back and sparked Rahman in the rematch anyway.

 

I don't know why your "loling" for do you even know what your talking about ? everyone knows Lewis was a late bloomer, and become a better fighter when he joined Emmanuel Steward. Correct me if i'm wrong but don't most people consider Lewis's prime to be in the late 90s or early 2000s ? where he had his most impressive performances over the likes of Tua, Holyfield, Grant, Tyson, Botha, etc ? so i don't really know what your on about.

Yeah Lewis underestimated Rahman so what ? Rahman still brutally KO'ed a Lewis who was considered in his prime. That for me is more impressive than outpointing an old Klitschko in a dull fight who never won another fight.

 

Knocking a close to prime Lewis silly is far better than staring at a 39 3/4 year old Wlad. Corey Sanders was easily better than Wilder, even when rarely training.

 

Why yes, yes they are!

 

But… At least Rahman had the spine to give Lewis that rematch! And he didn’t get “Caught up in a mental health crisis” while doing loads of Coke and boozing to conveniently ‘miss’ that 2nd fight with a 40 year old Wlad.

So… I’d say they’re even

That said… Fury destroys Rahman though H2H. Lol

 

Rahman actually sparked Lewis out cold and is only one of two people who ever managed to do so. Sure it was purely because Lewis got overconfident, but if we count old George sparking Moorer out cold by taking advantage of his overconfidence....we gotta count it for Rahman too.

Fury on the other hand....he declared in the middle of the ring that he could beat anyone in history all because he outboxed Wilder....a guy who can't box.

 

Sanders > Wilder
Lewis > Klitschko

So, yes.

Frankly I'd go one further and say PRIME Lewis >> OLD Klitschko.

 

So Wlad wasn't a late bloomer that became a better fighter when he joined Emmanuel Steward ? Give your head a wobble and think about what your saying...

Doesn't matter when or when his prime was considering he went into the fight out of shape and also hadn't properly acclimatised to where the venue was in South Africa. It was a career worst performance.

VS Wlad who hadn't been close to being defeated in 10+ years and was a year removed from a great performance against Pulev.

"That for me is more impressive than outpointing an old Klitschko in a dull fight who never won another fight." - he literally fought one more time against a guy who went onto unify the division for a few years.....

So here's another LOL for you to cry about.

 

Heres the difference Wladimir didn't win another fight after losing to Fury, he was pushing 40 years old and had show signs of slowing down vs Jennings. It's pretty much similar to Holmes losing to Spinks, a long reigning veteran aging Heavyweight champion at the end of the reign.

Yeah Wladimir was a late bloomer like Lennox, but the difference is when he fought Fury. He was older than Lewis was and again as I pointed never won another fight.

Why does it matter if Lewis underestimated Rahman or not ? You could also say Wladimir underestimated Fury aswell if you want to use that excuse, that's why Wladimir wanted a rematch.

The fact is a brutal KO is better than a dull 12 round decision, and Lewis was more in his prime than Wladimir was at that point in their respected careers that's plainly obvious.

So just to sum it up.

Lewis was more in his prime than Wladimir was.

A KO is better than a boring decision win.

Hope that helps.

 

He was more in his prime in terms of age, yes. In terms of his preparation and physical ability heading into the fight... he was miles away from his best. The Wlad from both Fury and AJ fights would've beaten Lennox that stepped into Rahman 1, he was that poor.

Wlad may not have won another fight... but what a ****ing performance he put on against an undefeated AJ.

Lennox showed up in the rematch against Rahman and showed us what he was truly about....... and proved how **** his first performance was too.

 

My question to you is do you think Wladimir was under par vs Fury aswell ? Or was it his age or was it Fury's style or all of the above ?

Wladimir did seem to fight with more fire in his belly vs Joshua, but then again a prime Wladimir would've ended Joshua.

You are correct Lewis was under par vs Rahman, but the fact is Lewis hadn't lost since losing to McCall. And not too sound harsh but all in all its Lewis's fault he underestimated Rahman. And for me a brutal KO over a prime Lewis even if he did underestimate Rahman, is more impressive than a dull decision over an aging Wladimir that's just how I see it.

We differ on this subject which is fair enough, but I have my view on it and I'm sticking with it. And your entitled to do the same.

 

I personally think Wlad found Fury so ridiculously awkward and long that night that he simply couldn't pull the trigger.

Now normally when we say a fighter can't pull the trigger it's because they don't have "it" anymore and are unable to let there hands go.

But that wasn't the case when 18 months later he was letting his hands go against a young hungry AJ on UK soil in a barnstormer of a fight.

He probably had lost half a step but he was by no means an old washed up has been which so many like to spout, which I think is extremely unfair and just discredits Fury's win. Everyone seems to forget Fury was completely wrote off beforehand and Wlad was fully expected to knock him out.

I just think Fury negated him on the night which we ironically saw Wlad do to so many in bygone years.