Is It About Time To Create A Super Heavyweight Class?

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  1. gooners!!

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    I dont hate either Klit bros. I think they fight smart. Its like Lewis used to say " why give a guy a chance that he does not have"

    I just dont think its great to watch.
     
  2. Magges

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    yeah and Waldo was starched by smaller men and Lewis was starched also... seeing the giant fall is part of the attraction, if you take this away the HW and "SHW" become both uninteresting... And you will have more paperchamps in both weight classes... HW will become pretty irrelevant.. the money will go to SHW....
    Just look at CW and HW, the same would happen if there were a SHW division.
     
  3. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    No anyone worried about being out weighed by that much should be able to make cruiser
     
  4. Chiko_Tech

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    no more divisions please
     
  5. stuistylee

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    NO...and i know of a couple of divisions we can fuk off 2...plus a cpl of sanctioning bodies....
     
  6. dbouziane

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    no i don't think so. i think what is needed is a couple ass kicking, athletic, 225lb brick shithouses to clean knock off all this dead wood in the hw division. frazier wasnt a mammoth, tyson, holy....
     
  7. Fan88

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    The K bros would dominate a super heavyweight division more lopsidedly and convincingly than they would the current HW scene.


    Who would they fight? Out-of shape Peter and Arreola, Dimitrenko, Valuev, Tye Fields? :patsch
     
  8. Abdullah

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    Never! Stupid, stupid, stupid.
     
  9. Davies

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    post of the day :good
     
  10. boricua100%

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    Hell no!!!
     
  11. Abdullah

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    To answer your question in one word...no. In boxing, we do need to make a few changes however. For one, we need to bring back 15 rounders. I believe 15 rounds is just the right amount of rounds to decide a championship bout. We need to eliminate and alter certain weight classes. Maybe something like this...105lbs. (Strawweight), 112lbs. (Flyweight), 118lbs. (Bantamweight), 126lbs. (Featherweight), 135lbs. (Lightweight), 140lbs. (Jr. Welterweight), 147lbs. (Welterweight), 154lbs. ( Jr. Middleweight), 160lbs. (Middleweight), 168lbs. (Super Middleweight), 175lbs. (Light Heavyweight), 190lbs. (Cruiserweight) and unlimited (Heavyweight).

    Notice I said 190lbs. for cruiserweight. Today's cruiserweight is a 25 lbs. division and Jr. bantamweight is only 3 lbs. This is crazy! Let's make this more balanced. I think people would pay more attention to the smaller weight classes if they were more than 3 or 4 pounds.

    Also, Heavyweight needs to be left alone. I understand that the big guys of today are more talented than at any time in the past, but that doesn't require a new weight class. A lot of great heavyweight champions were cruiserweights by today's standards. Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Rocky Marciano and Floyd Patterson just to name a few. Big guys were around back then, they just weren't very good prize fighters. Could Rocky Marciano really deal with Lennox Lewis or Vitali Klitschko? What human being really knows the answer to that? Instead of focusing on who could beat who in the all-time conversation, just focus on each fighter and how they did in their generation. Some say that the great heavyweights of the past like Peter Jackson, Jim Corbett or Jack Johnson couldn't contend with the heavyweights of today because today's guys are better schooled and bigger. This may be true, but why discredit the greats of the past? The things they did in the ring were simply amazing. Heavyweights wearing 5 oz. gloves and fighting 45 rounds in the sun. Could Lennox Lewis or Vitali Klitschko fight 45 rounds? We will likely never know. Jess Willard, who isn't considered an all-time great heavyweight, fought into the 26th round when he knocked out World Heavyweight Champion Jack Johnson. He was 6'6'' 1/2 and 238.5 lbs. Maybe the bigs guys of recent years could do this. Either way, it's only speculation.

    I say let's just enjoy boxing, instead of over analyzing everything. Boxing has went through a lot of changes over the years, some good and some bad. A Super Heavyweight division would be one of the bad ones, in my opinion.
     
  12. Lindley

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    The problem with this question is that we are currently in a time where you have the two champions having skill and being bigger. In the past, the bigger they were, the harder they fell. Down the line, though, if more 240+ athletes have better skills, it might make sense. for now, probably not going to happen.