Is it possible for a paper title holder to beat an Olympic gold medallist in a three round contest?

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  1. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMN LEMONS! Full Member

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    Is that what the cards said?
     
  2. Malph

    Malph Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good point. I totally agree on all your points.
     
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  3. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Active Member Full Member

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    Disagree, Canelo would get out pointed in a 3 rd amateur fight, in a 12 rd pro fight Canelo would obviously win, probably by stoppage in the mid rounds.
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No amateur boxer can outbox Canelo for the first 3 rounds, he is far more skilled than any amateur around today.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Cuban wouldn`t land much either because Canelo has a better defense than any amateur.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Khan didn`t land much in the first 3 rounds, he was mainly running.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That`s wrong in the sense that it`s not a physical difference, it`s the experience and knowing how to work out a fighter and adapt mid fight that amateurs lack compared to a savvy pro like Ali who wasn`t nearly as good when he turned pro and fought basdly in some of his earlier bouts compared to when he reached his peak v Williams, Ali was floored by Doug Jones and it ws a close fight, while a prime AAli would have toyed with Jones, Ali was also pretty bad in his first bout v Cooper but far better by the rematch.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch didn`t have an elite defense and was even beaten by Eubank Jr in sparring, youy are not supposed to fight full on sparring anyway, it`s just practise for you to try out your moves, Shane Mosley even copied fighters styles so his sparring partner could get used to fighting that style, no way could an amateur land that much on a good defensive pro fighter, Ward said the Diaz brother gave him all he could handle in sparring yet he would box eityher man`s head off in a proper bout.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bellew didn`t do **** v Usyk for the first 3 rounds and Floyd adjusted to Judah, working his body, Judah was nevder a world class fighter, he could be worked out and had no plan B, that`s the difference between top pros like Floyd and amateurs they develop a plan B through experience, amateurs don`t learn that fighting 3 rounders, it`s no kind of prep for a fight with a world class pro at all.
     
  10. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mark you're making everyone's point for them...

    A pro beats an amateur in a real fight. Sparring is a controlled environment that means nothing in the grand scheme of things...but elite amateurs often get the better of pro's over 3-4rds in these controlled settings. That's common knowledge in these gyms, everyone knows it and there's no shame in that.

    Unless your Lomachenko, the greatest amateur to ever live, you're not going out and boxing the ears of world champs in a title fight.

    Now, put Canelo in the olympics at 165lbs with huge foam gloves and amateur scoring system? He's exiting the tournament early, bro. It's not like he's getting smoked but these Cubans got him on points all day long.
     
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  11. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Active Member Full Member

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    Lol, you’re joking... right?
     
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    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thought this was another mark ant thread, but lol he's all over this thread anyways.
     
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    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golden Boy Cards.
     
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  14. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    98% of pro ‘champions’
     
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  15. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    Good post, but the pros have to be slower paced by necessity. The energy system demands of three rounds versus twelve makes that simply unavoidable. The same way reducing fights from 15 to 12 rounds increased the pace and the quality of fights. Personally I think the ideal number is in the 6-8 round range. That would really elevate the quality of pro boxing to another level.
     
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