Is JMM the man at Lightweight?

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  1. Larryboys

    Larryboys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Juan Manuel Marquez is now the lineal/Ring magazine champion.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    why, for beating a shot casamayor. he must at least beat campbell or pacquiao to be considered the man. the best way is to beat campbell who beat the man juan diaz.
     
  3. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Nopes . . . he needs to fight Nate and settle the score.

    Nate is still the man. :yep
     
  4. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Casa beat Nate. JMM beat Casa JMM is the Lineal Champ. Ring magazine
     
  5. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac is not at 135. Casa beat Nate. JMM knocked out Casa. The Lineage is with Casa. So JMM is now the Lineal Champ.
     
  6. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He does not understand the term Lineage.
     
  7. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You missed the point. Casa has win over nate JMM beat Casa. Nate is not the man. Casa beat him. JMM fought Casa and Casa was considered the lineal champ. So my point is right on target. Nate has never been the Lineal champ.
     
  8. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nice List you have Pac at number two even though he does fight at 135. You have Cruz on the list and he does not hold any belts at 135. You have Natwe at number even thought Casa pieced him. JMM at 5. JMM just beat Casa and Casa has already spanked Campbell. Really nice list for fairyland.
     
  9. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac is not at 135. Not according to who it matters. JMM is listed as the champion plain and simple. Stop listing Pac. He does not fight at 135. Casa got the win over cruz so the lineage was still with Casa. He beat kAtsidis and the lineage was still his. JMM beat Casa and is not the lineal champ.
     
  10. wushu

    wushu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    JMM is now The Ring and consensus LW champion of the world, but without alphabet titles. His lineal status comes from the Corrales-Castillo unification (w. Corrales --> Casamayor --> Marquez). Also Corrales and Casamayor had the WBC title, but Casamayor was stripped due to bad (Mexican) politics (he was stripped by Sulaiman so Morales could fight for a world title vs. Top Rank fighter and interim champ David Diaz.)

    Nate Campbell's 3 titles came from the big Juan Diaz win. Diaz of course unified the WBA, IBF and WBO titles.


    Since Casamayor never lost the WBC title in the ring or even by refusing to face a mandatory, Manny Pacquiao's belt is nothing more than a paper title. Also he's fighting at WW next. The ONLY logical and legitimate fight now at 135 for the weekend's BIG winner Juan Manuel Marquez and the big loser (due to Joan Guzman) Nate Campbell, is a fight between the who true champs.
     
  11. natep

    natep Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hey guy, diaz knocked out santa cruz before he fought casa. pac is not the lineal champ, marquez is.
     
  12. EpsilonAxis

    EpsilonAxis HNIC Full Member

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    Pac and JMM are about tied with me.

    Campbell a close third but I think he'd get wrecked by both.
     
  13. ipe

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    Not yet. A win over Campbell is needed for him to be the man at lightweight
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    He's the lineal champion so yes he is the best man in the division.
     
  15. 41fever

    41fever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ditto.