Is Juan Manuel Marquez an all time great

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  1. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    No.
     
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  2. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Perhaps.
     
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  3. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope HOF
     
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  4. DLSC

    DLSC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope.
     
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  5. stiga

    stiga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes
     
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  6. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    NO.

    HOF yes.
     
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  7. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    HOF yes

    ATG..... that i dont know, im leaning towards no.
     
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  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    yes imo. 3 title spanning 3 divisions. should be an ATG. beaten good fighters like medina and peden while having 2 close fights with pacquiao. beating barrera, casamayor and juan diaz. losing to floyd at welterweight should not affect his greatness, imo. besides, he was not stopped by the much bigger man. if barrera and morales will be considered, so must marquez.
     
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  9. stiga

    stiga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree with there..
     
    stiga, Dec 13, 2009
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  10. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    HOF yes.

    ATG... possibly.
     
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  11. beatsy

    beatsy Member Full Member

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    defeat by chris john? not atg.Defo HOF.
     
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  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    As a fighter, absolutely. 100%. As some ink or text to the kind of nerds who only understand resume, no.
     
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  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Close and arguable defeat to a great fighter who is undefeated and in double digit title defenses? Yeah, Marquez should take a serious hit there....
     
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  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Plus, what's great is I've seen more than one of this literal exact same thread and it was better before and also the poster isn't the kind of jerk that just puts "no".
     
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  15. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is ALI an ATG for you? he does have a loss against a non-ATG fighter:yep
     
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