Is Khan the biggest joke in boxing?

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Here's Khan's last 6 opponents.
    Canelo
    Algieri-LOL
    Alexander-Solid
    Collazo-LOL
    Diaz-LMFAO
    Molina-LOL

    Thank you Khan for fighting the best opposition. As for the favorite thing I pointed it out because it's not like Khan was looking for fights he was a huge underdog in, he was the favorite in every fight besides the Canelo fight.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    LMFAO he hasn't defended against a top 15? So tell me 15 HW better than Duhapaus, and Molina. Don't give me some prospects with like 5-15 fights either.
    Povetkin has been causing a huge delay in his career. Besides Ortiz, who would you want him to fight? Would you actually give him credit for beating Pulev, Whyte, or Chisora who are only a little better at best than the guys he's been fighting?
     
  3. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you on about? Look at Khan's record. Most of the boxers he's fought since 2010 were high ranked boxers in the division he was in at the time.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Do you really think Molina and Duhaupas are top 15 heavyweights? :lol:
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not saying he hasn't fought good opposition. He did fight solid opposition, but opposition he was teh favorite in. A shot Judah, Paulie who was really nothing special, Maidana before Garcia, Garcia, and Peterson. That's his resume. It's solid, but he didn't fight the best out there. The past couple years his career has been a joke. He's just cashing out now, he needs to go away.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah that's what I thought, keep yapping.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    That's what you thought? You're not going to tell me whether or not you consider those guys top 15 heavyweights but want me to go out of my way to list them? :lol:
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I already said I considered them both top 15 heavies. You could make the case for top 10 too when Wilder fought them, especially with Duhapaus' win over Charr. Am I saying that's some kind of elite win? Hell no, but at the time you cant put someone like Hughie or Parker above him since they literally fought no one.
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Who had Molina beaten when Wilders team snatched him from the grasp of still in prospect stage Parker? Grano? The best win of his career came AFTER Wilder in a shot Adamek, Duhaupas showed some good former against Charr and Teper but not enough to be ranked in the top 15, although he had a better case than Molina. Fury had just as good a win as either of those guys in Rudenko at the time, but that's nowhere near enough to be considered top 15 either.
     
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    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok, so out of the last 6, two of them were solid. Oh that's so terrible. When your last 5 opponents has three solid opponents (including pacquaio) and you're still LOL about it, then you know theres problems.
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    So name 15 HW that were ahead of him at the time.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't even count Canelo as solid, it was a pure cash out. He wouldn't take the Brook fight, and I'm pretty sure the Brook fight is more money since he's the A side.
     
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    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What the hell? What kind of reasoning is that LOL? You're not classing his most solid opposition because you believe it was a cashout? Bloody hell, lets discredit every boxer then that fought the best because he got big money for it. You fight the best, you get big money. Another thing, you go on about the Brook fight while then admitting Khan would of got even more money against Brook, but then Khan took the more solid opposition in Canelo. So was it a cashout or not? Oh it's about excuses now. Look, you're going to be embarrassing yourself if you carry on. You're just going to end up making exuses to suit your own agenda.
     
  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes we should discredit boxers who take fights where they make an excuse about weight after, and were purely taking the fight because of the money even though they knew they had no chance. Brook/Khan were in no lose situations. Even though they lost their stocks didnt drop at all, you could even say they've risen.

    As for the Brook/Canelo situation it's simple. Khan loses nothing if he gets koed by Canelo. If he gets koed by Brook his stocks drops massively. It's really common sense, which you seem to lack. Let me help you out a little. Khan is trying to maximize his cash out as much as he can. The Brook fight will ALWAYS be there for him which is why he doesn't want to take it now. If he gets koed by Brook there would be talks of Pac/Canelo fights.

    Also I'm not saying Canelo isn't solid opposition. I was more basing it on if the fight was solid or not. Khan/Canelo was not a solid fight. Neither was Brook/GGG.
     
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    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    #1 - Wladamir Klitschko
    #2 - Alexander Povetkin
    #3 - Deontay Wilder
    #4 - Tyson Fury
    #5 - Bryant Jennings
    #6 - Kubrat Pulev
    #7 - Carlos Takam
    #8 - Toney Thompson
    #9 - Derek Chisora
    #10 - Mike Perez
    #11 - Bermaine Stiverne
    #12 - Vyacheslav Glazkov
    #13 - Steve Cunningham
    #14 - Malik Scott
    #15 - Tomasz Adamek

    This was REALLY hard to do on memory. may have left a name or two out, and a couple interchangeable. But this is more or less how the rankings should have looked like at the time.