Is larry holmes jab overrated?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I once saw that man knock down ol' slippery Ossie with a jab.

    Didn't he stun or knock down Leon Spink's with a jab as well?

    Man had a hell of a jab. How about we just agree to disagree?
     
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    What jabs do you rate higher.

    My problem with Holmes jab wasn't so much the jab itself, it was more so that he dropped it so often coming back.
     
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    Holmes took Ali's jab and refined it (and built his entire career on it, whereas Ali doesn't typically get thought of as first and foremost and near-exclusively a jabber the way Holmes is, alongside few others in history besides Quartey), so no, I don't think you can rate Ali's over his.

    As for Lewis', he might have been modeling himself off Holmes (or their mutual idol, Ali) but I don't think he ever quite got there. Lewis was too in love with his power to ever reach that plane of mastery with the lead hand.
     
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    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes had an ATG jab no doubt, but my favorite was Ali's during the first Jerry Quarry fight. Ali's jab in that fight was cobra quick, all the more impressive because it was his first fight after a 3 year layoff and against a top contender.
     
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    Yeah, if you want to say Ali's on certain nights bested Holmes' on certain nights, that's fair play. Sum of their parts though, I think you've got go with Larry.
     
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    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Have u seen that jab??? How could it be overrated?????? WTF? I mean, even if you favored ali's or Foremans over it, you have to think its one of the best jabs ever.
     
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  7. JackSilver

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    Most notable jabbers tend to do that as well as holding it too low before launching it.
     
  8. Wvboxer

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    Holmes had an all time jab. Great combo of speed & power. Definitely one of the best.

    Ali's jab is up there. That first Quarry fight is a great example of how good his jab was. Not sure I'd put it over Holmes though.

    Carl Williams had a superb jab! Honestly, he's pretty close to Holmes to me. The guy who's jab seems a a bit overrated to me is Pinklon Thomas. Just doesn't have the snap of the guys I mentioned above.
     
  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Holmes certainly had one of the best jabs of all-time. He worked it overtime. He depended on it. Ali's was slightly better IMO. Ali had more overall talent than Holmes so his jab was'nt always the focus.
     
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  10. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Larry didn't have that ATG jab, fighters would have walked right thru him. It was piston like, and held a huge plethora of opponents at bay. His greatest asset, among several.
     
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    Nit picking? Holmes had a great jab. Top 5 all-time at heavyweight, with many thinking he had the best heavyweight jab of all time. I'd argue he did, thanks to Holmes versatility of the punch.

    It had speed

    It had length

    It had accuracy from a stationary stance or moving.

    It could be used to set up for the offense or keep someone else away

    And is could snap his opponents head back and hurt them.

    But don't take my word for it, watch Holmes jab in action below:

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  12. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holmes jab was still a major weapon when he was into his forties.
    Holmes had the best jab I've ever seen.
     
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  13. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Larry definitely had a great jab. Page, Williams, and Thomas come close. Shame Larry couldn't use that jab on Don King lol.
     
  14. Clinton

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    Ouch,LMMFAO. Don't ever change, my brother.
     
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  15. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The legendary Holmes without the legendary jab wouldn't have become legendary at all - if that makes any sense :thinking:
     
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