is marquez,mayweather's version of a tuneup fight?

So where do you think is the difference? Even Cotto has almost the same dimensions. Yet both can not go down to 140 to fight comfortably.

If you look at the tale of tape, Mayweather is not that much bigger. I even supposed that he is a stocky fighter because at his height, he should be comfortable fighting at 140, yet he asked a barely 135 fighter to go higher at 143. Similar situation with Cotto (or Duran), where his height is good for 140 yet he cannot fight lower than welter. We are talking about today not history because both fighters had fought even at 135.

 

so thats how we gonna try and justify it huh?...well Vic Darchinyan called out Jermain Taylor as well, so it would of been cool if Taylor accepted since he was the one who was called out?

hell nah, it's cherrypicking....

 

Still a WW....and JMM is???

 

If no one else called out Taylor at the time, then hell yeh it would have been cool.

Lets look at who has called out Mayweather?

Margarito called him out. I got a lot of respect for that. So that's 1.

Cotto has never called out Mayweather. Even when Mayweather has implied all he has to do is call me out but he dont. And still Cotto dont call him out!:huh

Mayweather has also told Pac to call him out. But Pac wont, why? because by calling him out that means you gonna be giving up that purse :rofl

Mosley in recent years have constantly called out Mayweather but we all know why that fight aint happening. Mayweather is pissed how he never got the fight he wanted when Mosley was in his PRIME. Now with 5 losses under his belt and his career coming to an end Mayweather is saying **** off!!!

And who can blame him?

Hatton called out Mayweather fight was made, Marquez called out Mayweather fight was made.

Mayweather called out Oscar the fight was madeatsch

Can you see what happens when you actually call a fighter out. You get a good chance of a fight actually being made.

Fans cant call out fighters for you. the fighter has to do it themselves.:deal

 

Yeah and remind what weight mayweather started out? And having five fights at welter or above makes him a natural WW like Cotto or Mosley?

I think you should focus on Cotto fighting Pacquaio as a mismatch, or you just to focused on being on Floyds dick all the time?

Floyd moved up in weight and has been successful, so has Pac/Mosley/Leonard/Jones Jr and the list goes on.

So Marquez clearly wants the biggest and best fights out there, who else could he fight at welter at the moment...Mosley? Why should Floyd move down to meet him? When all fighters in the past have had to move up weight and prove themselves further and secure their legacys? Why is Marquez any different to everyone else? Is it just because hes facing Floyd and you can't get past your blind hatred for him to see what Marquez is trying to accomplish here.

 

As of september the 19th JMM is a WW :good

 

So you're saying floyd is not WW? so what is his natural weight then? I have no problem JMM moving up, but it pisses me off, floyd acting like this is no mismatch...

 

Marquez has never even fought at jr welter...so we just don't know how good he'll be. Pac has already fought at welter against DeLaHoya and is actualy favored aganst Cotto...there is no mismatch.

 

Marquez is the man of mexico. Most proud of that is at this point. Only thing that makes it a tune up is bc floyd wants bigger things after this match and that JMM is smaller. In terms of skills floyd only got a slight edge. With two years laid off things may get interesting. Floyd have focus training camp making 144 while JMM can focus on technique. IMO floyd give JMM plenty chances for this fight.

 

The x-factors are Mayweather's layoff and Marquez preformance at the new weight...but logic says Mayweather hold every physical advantage.

 

if you're good your good. weight doesn't really matter unless your opponent is soo much bigger. floyd comes in 149 on fight night against hatton while JMM came in 141 against Pac. Neither of them uses size to impose their opponent's will. JMM will be alright. The recent WW look - clottey comes in at 168-170, Cotto and Shane around 155+. Not that Floyd have problems with top rank and cotto doesn't seem interested in fighting floyd. I think Floyd is signed up for a 3-5 fight deal so we will see what he does after JMM.

 

You can't say because JMM is moving up its a mismatch, hes smaller but the added weight could give him more power and so on. If your saying this is a mismatch then you need to criticize every fight in history where a fighter has moved up, and therefore criticize Cotto for fighting a smaller fighter in Pacquaio, however that would be ridiculous right? But when it comes to Floyd its a catch 22.

I don't believe that weight is that much of an issue, Floyd and Pacquaio are the most recent fighters to prove this, if you have the god given ability you should be successful at respectable weights. If JMM wants to add to his legacy he has to fight the best at the current weight they are at.

I'm a big floyd fan but im fair, if he doesn't fight Pac and Cotto or either, and its his fault the fights didnt happen then i'll be first inline to criticize.

 

if you believe this......theres something seriously wrong with you

flat out ducked Margarito...

???...saying "i want to fight such and such" means next to nothing, it's about making offers behind closed doors, and after Cotto beat Mosley HBO asked Arum if he was interested in having Cotto fight the winner of Hatton-FMJ, of course Hatton had already turned down a previous offer to fight Cotto and Floyd proved he wanted no part in the fight with all the "we dont do business with Arum" and Ellerbe going on statement saying "we wont fight Cotto cuzz he's not a big enough draw" and not to mention Floyds clear refusal after the Hatton fight with that bull**** ass "i wont let boxing retire me" speach he gave

so Arum wanted the fight, HBO wanted the fight, Cotto wanted the fight and most importantly the fans wanted the fight....but guess who didn't?, so in the words of Cotto "you cant fight some1 who doesn't wanna fight you"

Ducked Cotto

....Floyd priced himself out he wanted 60% when we all know he doesn't deserve it, Arum was willing to go for 50% and he still wouldn't take it

ducked Pac

dont sugarcoat it, he ducked Mosley too...but to be fair, Mosley did technically duck him in the past as well, so like you said, i wont blame him for that one...

as did Joel Cassamayor, Acelino Freitas, Paul Williams etc..

like seriously...why even try? it's obvious as **** to any1 without a Mayweather T-shirt that he's in the sport to make money and take the path of least resistance and that **** aint even debatable...Floyd will only fight people he knows he can beat, plain and simple

the mans a cherrypicker

 

There is no mismatch because Floyd aint involved!

So when Floyd faced Oscar at 154 that wasn't a big step up for Floyd? He started at 130 and moved up 24 pounds. JMM started at 126 and is moving up 21 pounds...So wheres your problem?

I just don't JMM is getting enough credit as a fighter for taking this fight. If Floyd wins it will be a credible win, as when you look at them both next to each other it hardly looks like David and Goliath.

 

Doesn't matter, the main problem is how will Marquez look when he's fighting someone at these higher weights.

But from what I saw in his two fights @ 135, I don't think he'll be effective at these weights.