Is Pacquiao a different fighter since Marquez?

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  1. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Only a Mayweather vs. Pac fight can tell!

    But even if Pac wins against Mayweather, Mayweather will be past his prime and shot.
     
  2. horst

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    No. Watch his fights yourself, instead of making wisecracks. Since Marquez, Pac's footwork, movement, and defence have improved dramatically. I think the second Marquez fight being so close was the wake-up call that Roach and Pac needed because they were still relying too much on Manny's natural firepower. He has greater punch variety, a better right hand, and better discipline/tactical acumen now. As I said, watch the fights and see for yourself.
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    No, he's just fighting boxers who are a lot less skilled than JMM now.
     
  4. MAG1965

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    I think his experience has made him better and the fact that he moved up and stayed pretty strong, his handspeed is faster compared to the bigger guys and his workrate is still more like a 126-130 pound guy, which means he can out work any welterweight and he does.
     
  5. MAG1965

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    I don't think so. If JMM was so good he wouldn't have lost all the rounds against Floyd. And people will mention the size, but Pac moved up and outsped Oscar. Pacman is just much faster and uses his experience and strength better than JMM. Just a different quality fighter. Although it is possible that Pacman fights Floyd and looks as inept as JMM did, and people will then say Pacman and Roach did a great job handpicking opponents who would compliment his style.
     
  6. Ring Master

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    It was the first Marquez fight. And yes you see the difference in the Morales fights. In the second Morales fight that right hook was hurting EM.
     
  7. dilayro

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    Don't overrate JMM skills. A lowly Freddie Norwood and Derrick Gainer gave him fits.
     
  8. JLocs

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    you PHILL this is the only time you have made any SENSE...:good
     
  9. Phanekim

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    alex ariza came on a few weeks before diaz fight. i hope this doesn't get spammed with PED jokes.
     
  10. bonds

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    Pacquaio started taking Ariza's supplements after the Marquez fight.

    Nothing else has changed.
     
  11. elTerrible

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    Since his feather weight days? He was a one handed fighter back then. Straight right straight right over and over. Now he uses both hands and puts together combinations much better. He also uses more headmovement and better foot work. He has improved a lot, it will take someone with great technical ability like JMM had to beat him because even guys like Cotto who have good skills cannot compete with him.
     
  12. Twirdman

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    Yeah I mean before those fights Pacs natural talent was enough. First Marquez fight they see ok maybe it isn't. They make improvements for the second fight and yet its still not enough. They begin to realize that natural strength and speed aren't going to be enough. Especially as you move up and you don't have that KO power anymore. So he starts fighting smarter because natural talent can only take you so far against the best opponents, especially as you move up and those guys are stronger thus can actually hurt you.
     
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  14. enzo

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    he has improved in his preparation and in his mental approach.
     
  15. divac

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    Mayweather did as well as he did against Marquez because he was able to match skill with the quickness and speed advantage he held over Marquez.

    Pac did'nt do nearly as well because he could not match skill with the quickness and speed advantage he had over Marquez.


    Let me clarify more for the *******s since reading comprehension is'nt there strong point........

    Both Pac and Mayweather have speed and quickness, but only Mayweather had the skill to make his advantage in speed and quickness work for him against JMM.

    I think thats pretty simple to understand.