Is Pacquiao impossible?-Why Steroid accusations are baseless?

So because someone is questioning the manner in which he is destroying these bigger and stronger fighters, it is because of hate? That is pretty illogical on your behalf.

 

this is pretty dumb, as is floyd sr

but jr already said the weight aint got nothing to do with it
both followed more or less the same wiehgt pattern in terms of growth and time

what he saying is pac was life and death with morales and marquez, comes up to 147 and destroys cotto and de la hoya aswell as nearly killing hatton with 1 punch and these dudes are hitting him flush in the face and he barely blinks and you see him getting dropped by a jab at one pointin the much lower weights

also his punch count every fight increases as hes put on weight


for me i dont think he is on roids, but the weight isnt what floyd wants the testing for, its how his performances have changed

for me its all down to much better technique and ariza's conditioning with roaches gameplanning

 

There's a youtube video of an interview from 2005 after his lost to Morales where he states that his pre-fight bloodwork was lost and he had to come in and give a new sample on the day before the fight, I believe. He went on to state that's what weakened him, having the blood taken out in the course of cutting weight for the weigh-in. Those are his words, it's not like the aversion to drawing blood close to a fight is a new thing but it certainly didn't appear simply because he didn't want to take the blood tests. Also, that cut he had from the headbutt was bothering him. I think he said that in the post fight interview.

 

I can respect this opinion.

here's my response to your points

I agree that Pac struggled because it was his first fight at 130. He looked like a smaller man in that fight and it took something out of him. In the Marquez fight too, Pac looks like a much smaller man. In the second fight and especially the third fight with Morales you can see that all of a sudden Pac looks bigger and stronger than Morales, same in the JMM rematch. I think Pac made a conscious choice after his loss to Morales to put on some muscle and train like an animal. I don't think Ariza was with Pac yet. Reports are that Ariza joined Pac in 2008. The Morales fights were 2005 & 2006. It's quite possible that at 25 or 26 years old Pac simply decided to start packing some muscle onto his pretty skinny frame, something that at that age is not that diffucult if you train hard and eat alot. I'm 26 now and if I train for a month with the proper diet I can put on 10lbs of muscle easy.

Second point you make is that Pac was not overwhelming opponents at lower weights like he is against bigger guys today. No offence man but that's a load of bull****. Pac has always overwhelmed opponents from 112 to 122 to 126. That was his style if you look at 122 he got all his wins by KO and basically just imposing his will on his opponents. He also won his first three weight titles at 112, 122, and 126 by overwhelming Sasakul, Ledwaba, and Barrera respectively. I would even say that at the time Barrera was bigger than Pacquiao but Pacquiao's athleticism was still too much. If the Marquez fight was at 122 instead of 126, Pac would probably have hurt him enough to stop him.

Now the 2010 version of Pac picks his spots and waits for openings and tries to split his opponent's defense with footwork and traps. Before he would just pummel them up the middle.

A guy like Clottey was able to take Pac's power on his guard and handle the body shots, but if that fight was at 122, his arms would have fallen off.

 

Whatever the case may be, I really hope Pac is clean. He is easy to root for due to his humble and down-to-earth personality, and he is in fact a warrior.

 

Nothing can prove a negative. Ever.

You lose again.

 

Whe you refuse to test, and balk out the richest fight you could ever b in, you leave yourself open for this kind of comments, and the amount of blood they take is nothing, you can drink a little b of juice and ******* with cheese, and you like new again, what it got to me was the excuse he gave about been "afraid of needles", when it comes to Pacroid fans, is alway a selective comment, they never mention the needles, or how big his head had grow. I'm not a fan of Fraud, I think he is cherrypicker, just like Pacroid is now.

 

First of all, when Pac moved up from 122 to 126, Roach said that he would probably move back down to 122 after becuase he could still make weight easily. Instead he got a shot against Marquez a few months later and took it. There's no way that Pac moved up to 126 because he was having trouble making 122. It's simply not true. He was definately the smaller man in the first Barrera and Marquez fights. And then two fights after Marquez he moved up in weight again and fought Morales at 130.

And I really don't think you can say that Pac has more power at 147 than he did at 112, 122 and 126. His fights show the opposite.

From May 1996 to May 2006, Pac has 29 wins, 28 knockouts.

He has more decision wins in the last 12 months than he had in that entire decade.


tell you what, I care little for Pac's down to earth mentality. And I like technical boxers alot more than B level sluggers. What makes me a fan of Pac is his ability in the ring, not the other stuff.

 

If that makes you suspicious, then every professional boxer in the history of the sport is suspicious.

 

First of all, he didn't refuse to agree to random drug testing. He refused to be blood tested too close to the fight. He agreed to be random drug tested by urine testing the whole way through as well as being random drug tested by blood until a cutoff date.

Second, the blood test requests came along with accusations. Folding in to these demands gives credence to your opponent and basically sends the message "If you push me into a corner, I will fold." When someone publicly accuses you of something and puts the onus on you to prove your innocence, the proper reaction is to tell them to **** off.

Third, there could be a million reasons Pac doesn't want to take the blood test that have nothing to do with him being on drugs. From not trusting the USADA to not liking having a syringe stuck in his veins to simply not wanting to give any credence to his opponent's outlandish statement. And many more.

I don't wanna give my fingerprints to the police, but that doesn't make me a criminal.

 

I think that has more to do with him being able to see the punches coming from Cotto and Margo where as he didn't see them coming from JMM who caught him with clean counter shots. If someone at 147 hits him with a clean counter that he doesn't see he will be rocked so far he hasn't fought any counter punchers or guys with fast hands at 147.

 

You've just stated that Morales seemed weak as a result of draining down to a low weight. This would imply that you believe Erik would've looked a lot fresher and stronger had he fought at a higher weight that didn't require as much cutting. Isn't this precisely the same thing you'd expect to see if Pacquiao was no longer boiling off 15lbs prior to a fight? I think it should be expected that a body that hasn't been dehydrated and fed minimal calories in the weeks leading up to a tough fight will be stronger and more durable in the ring.

Ariza works with several guys at Wild Card. Let's see how they do over time. Amir has been looking sharp since his time working with Alex.

 

And so has Chavez Jr. who had a **** physique before hooking up with Ariza in his first fight with Ariza he was cut to shreads.:deal

 

Not sure what you think that exposes. Jr. was notorious for being lazy and having a poor work ethic. If he is being pushed by Alex, he could only be expected to get in better shape.

 

I think Ariza's mystery shakes had a lot to do with Chavez Jr's impoved physique and condition.