is Pernel Whitaker Overrated?

No, 2 wins over cokes by making him quit makes napoles welterwieight career more impressive, and all of those stoppage wins over the top contenders of that era.

 

When you fight in 9 weight classes and become the lineal champ in 4 of them, you are going to have struggles along the way. Pacquaio will be ranked ahead of whitaker on most all time lists, you want to rank pea higher, thats good for you, in 20 years it will be a minority opinion. Its almost a guarantee that people like teddy atlas, larry merchant, and any respectable boxing trainer that knows the game has pac higher on the all time lists as he should be. Whitakers dominance is vastly overrated. So what if pac had his struggles, whitaker lost to rivera, that will always mark him down in my eyes. If he decided to fight more at 154, which would only be his 4th weight class, he would have suffered plenty of blemishes or defeats, but i forgot he returned back to 147 because he claimed vasquez hit too hard.

You can criticise others for thier blemishes and 'mark them down' but thats kinda expected when you are a former flyweight camp, that fights all the way up to 154. Pernell fought in a grand total of 4 wieght classes, and barely fought in 2 of those 4. Im sure if he tested middleweight or faced terry norris at 154, he would have taken some beatings.

Floyd Mayweather would be even more dominant against the guys whitaker fought from 85-96, and he prolly stops a good chunk of them because he can actually finish his fights. There isnt a single guy on pernell;s resume from 85-96 that I would have picked to beat mayweather, and he surely doesnt be made to look like a bum against rivera and hurtado. You can overrate pernells opponents as much as you want, ive seen what you saw and i dont think his resume is really what you make it out to be. Floyd doesnt have a duran esque wins resume, well neither does whitaker. Keep overrating the wins over nelson or mcgirt, floyd would have schooled them and im sure buddy would openly tell me floyd is better than him. By the time vasquez tries to land 1 punch floyd will land 3.

You keep trying to make floyd look like hes some *****. Whitaker decided to go back to 154 because he thought the bigger guys hit hard, lol. Seems like whitaker wanted to cherry pick and keep an 0, something floyd is always accused of. Ive seen both of them fight, there is nothing that I see that leads me to believe whitaker is a class above, lol hes not.

 

Making excuses doesnt change anything, you let me know the next time a flyweight champ starts beating guys at 140-154. Pac is greater and will unianimously be ranked higher 20 years from now, ESB's nuthugging of pernell wont change that.

 

So pac steamrolling through barrera doesnt make him the man at featherweight? Even though barerra is basically better than 99% of the guys whitaker has beaten. Pac absolutely tooling hatton and winning 10 rounds against bardley doesnt make him legit at the 140 and 147 divisions. Or the way he absolutely manhandled cotto, despite being the clearly smaller fighter. Lets see erik morales or marquez beat cotto and stop him like that, oh wait you assume if anyone comes 1 or 2 pounds below thier wieght limit, a bum beats them. Even though cotto weighed 146 just a year below. Or absolutely tool margo at 154, despite being at a significant size disadvantage. Whitaker wouldnt have the guts to fight a similar size disadvantage against a middleweight or super middleweight, he knows he would get stopped. Margo was clearly 30-35 pounds naturally bigger than pac, common sense suggests it. Whitaker would never fight 160 or 168 fighters because he has floyd's mentality, protecting blemishes.

I just re-watched whitakers fights last night with vasquez and trinidada because you love giving him so much credit. He essentially won rounds 1 and 7 against trinidad, rounds 3 and 11 were arguable at best the weakest rounds of the fight both could have went to tito, every other round was a massive win for tito. It was essentially a 10-2 or 9-3 type of decision, yet you act like pernell clearly won 4 rounds, no he didnt. I can see you try your best to score every round for pea.

The Vasquez fight, lol. The first 2 rounds were debatable, vasquez won 3-4, 5th and 6th were close. I had vasquez ahead by a point after 6 rounds. Then vasquez faded away and got tired, lost the last 6 rounds. The announcers made jokes about how hes breathing so hard and keeps snorting and hows hes out of gas now. Every great figther would have beaten vasquez because he gets tired easily and only lands 1 slow punch at a time. There is no freakin way he would be the betting favourite against mayweather, not a snowball's chance in hell.

 

Marquez and morales are from the same era, why couldnt they make flyweight. Pac made the weight class fair and square. Pac spent the majority of his adult career below 135, and now hes a warrior at 140-154, a real stud and even though he tooled timothy bradley, was very classy in defeat. Whitaker would have cried like a baby even if rivera 1 decision wasnt given to him.

 

Yet too bad manny was way smaller than any of these guys. Let me know when erik morales or barrera starts beating these opponents. Whitaker as a lightweight beating other 135-147 fighters is nothing special. A flyweight-featherweight beating up 135-154 fighters is rare and only comes along once in a blue moon. Go ahead and discredit those wins, they are still more credible than whitakers resume.

The 2nd marquez fight wasnt a robbery, i think pac won. Pac won the first fight too.

Hatton isnt credible because he had a loss, lol. Mcgirt was soundily beaten by franki freakin waren, stopped by medlrick taylor, had a shoulder injury against whitaker, and was washed up in the 2nd fight. Pac was also what, came from 5 weights classes below hatton, he was fighting at featherweight 3 years before that bout.:good

Were you cotto's medical doctor, he fought at 146 just prior to this bought. 1 freakin pound less would have caused a huge difference. Did you consider the fact that manny had to put on extra weight you twat? It works both weighs. Let me know when prince hamed, barrera, morales, or even the god azumah nelson will bother going up to 147 and beat cotto, ok you let me knoe when a featherweight champ starts beatig guys at welterweight.

If a past it mosley can beat mayorga and margo, he can easily beat the living snout out of d level haugen.

Joshua Clottey was a ranked welterwight, i could care less if you dont think hes that good. He would easily beat the living **** out of any featherweight you idolize.

 

Classy in a fight he was robbed, he tooled bradey. He doesnt need to whine like a little girl the way whitaker does. OMG I got robbed against de la hoya, no he didnt, he was beaten.

Why would i need to make cases for pacquiao, when he retires he will be ranked higher than whitaker, only die hard whitaker lunatics that are stuck in the past will be in denial.

 

Except with whitaker, you can name a handful of fighters his size that accomplished what he did. With manny you cant, mannys other peers wouldnt go anywhere near margo or cotto, he did because hes the toughest warrior of them all.