Is Povetkin getting slower??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Charles White, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2008
    Messages:
    7,132
    Likes Received:
    30
    It would be a very bad idea for Povetkin. Right now, Povetkin has a title shot locked up. Arreola would be a huge risk for Povetkin. There's really no point in Povetkin fighting Arreola now.

    For the time being, Povetkin needs two good tune-ups, then he should move directly into the title fight. If Povetkin loses the title fight, then he should fight Arreola...but not before then.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    4
    The problem Povetkin has right now apart from inactivity (that can be solved) is finding the right opponents to help prepare him.

    He's fought a lot of smaller men, similar size to himself, that are very athletic and fast. Eddie Chambers, Chris Byrd, Jason Estrada, Larry Donald.

    Never has he fought a truely big puncher, or a much taller opponent.
     
  3. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    2,357
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm thinking the same thing. Most of the fighters he's fought as far as I know have been short fat guys like Chambers, Estrada ect. That doesn't prepare him for Klitschko well. I also would like to see him fight a tall, athletic HW, but who other than Vitaly or Wlad fits that description?
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    4
    I'm unsure. A big brute that punches hard would be a start, even if he's not very good. Maybe Rahman or Maskaev who is highly rated by a certain organisation, they can both punch hard but don't offer too much else at this stage.

    Tony Thompson is a tall guy that likes to use the jab. Being southpaw isn't much of a help but he at least poses a few of the problems.
     
  5. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2009
    Messages:
    11,656
    Likes Received:
    0
    I would pick chambers in the rematch against povetkin....plus, I have a feeling povetkin is "chinny" at this point if he faces a big puncher...
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    4
    Why do you have that feeling? My concern is the fact he always gets hit with right hands, rather than being chinny. Being easily hit is not good in the heavyweight division.

    Povetkin beat Chambers easy IMO. I had it to him by 8 rounds to 4. The only way I could see that being reversed is if Povetkin jumped straight into it without getting a few fights beforehand. It's okay looking good against a guy like Sam Peter that can't box and Dimitrenko who was unproven and turned out to be a *****, but Povetkin is a lot better.
     
  7. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2009
    Messages:
    11,656
    Likes Received:
    0
    I had it 116-112 povetkin as well aginst chambers.....but chambers had success early....chambers to me has shown significant improvement since that fight, along with a beter work ethic....I dont know if anybody has noticed, but povetkin's face swells bad, like a bruised banana....thats why I have a hunch against either Klitschko or a big puncher he could go down....
     
  8. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2008
    Messages:
    15,033
    Likes Received:
    5
    This is probably the answer right here. It's probably just a matter of sharpness and not eroded talent.
     
  9. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    9,137
    Likes Received:
    2,461
    Thanks for reminding me, that makes 4 fights of his that I have seen.
     
  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    37,210
    Likes Received:
    6,766
    Exactly. He appears to have realized that he would have ZERO chance against Wlad if he fought like he did against Estrada and Chambers.

    Povetkin realized he needs to fight way above his current potential. I am curious what Atlas is trying to do with him.
     
  11. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    9,137
    Likes Received:
    2,461
    that is what I meant by him being slower; his handspeed has greatly slowed down it seems. To me at least.
     
  12. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2009
    Messages:
    4,635
    Likes Received:
    1
    Dimitrenko is a good boxer and a tough opponent. On-topic, Povetkin is not slower he's just been inactive, also the leg injury has slowed him down a bit.
     
  13. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    9,137
    Likes Received:
    2,461
    Just rewatched Estrada/Povetkin...granted this fight was not one to go by when determining Povetkin's handspeed, but still...I remember the fights between Povetkin and both Chambers and Sykes, and I must say I still think he has slowed down handspeed-wise.
     
  14. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    2,357
    Likes Received:
    0
    He just looked slow and sluggish period, with the exception of his late round rally. However, it was enough to dispose of Estrada.
     
  15. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    9,137
    Likes Received:
    2,461
    True enough. I have no quarrel with Povetkin. Good fighter in my eyes. Just had to bring up this observation.