Is Riddick Bowe an all time great

He blocked almost all of Morrisons combinations and blasted him out with quick combinations of his own. How was that a fluke ? Lol

Convincingly suggests it's a convincing win, in this case i suggest he would edge Golota out in a highly competitive 12 rounder

Golota was having the most success at mid range though and slipping Bowes sloppy overhands and left hooks at mid/close range. Golota could outjab prime Bowe im not saying he can't

 

If that 2nd round isn't a 10-7 round i don't know what is, he floored and dominated Bowe for the entire round landing 70 punches to Bowe's what 10 punches ? i can't remember exact stats. But for me that's one of the clearest cases of an added point for how dominant Golota was. But your right it is up to scorer, but i really don't see how it couldn't be but were agree to disagree.

Can i ask your question ? in your 2nd paragraph are you agreeing with me that Golota out jabs Bowe ? or was that a typo just making sure not trying to be a dick.

In all honestly i didn't really see Bowe giving Golota much issue with the jab, the 1st fight i only gave Bowe the 2nd round i believe not counting point deductions. He was totally out fought on the inside and out jabbed on the outside, but that's how i see it obviously you see it different to me but that's not how i saw it.

The only real success Bowe had for me, was when he landed that overhand right vs Golota in the 2nd fight. But outside of that i didn't really see Bowe have much success at all.

 

It was a fluke in regard that if they fought 10 times it probably never happen again, it was considered a bit of a freak/fluke win. Bentt was considered a tune up for Morrison who was gonna fight Lewis after. Morrison underestimated him got caught cold, and the rest is history.

I can agree with your 2nd comment no argument there, now you pointed out what you meant.

No argument on 3rd comment either i agree.

 

I said Golota could. I'm not going to say with confidence that Golota would outjab a prime Riddick Bowe and i think overall Bowe at his peak has a better jab but Golota could and would have a good chance at doing it. It's not black and white.

Speaking on the rematch yes Bowe was outclassed in round 2 but he did much better in rounds 3 and 4 rounds. Got battered half the remaining fight and made a few more rounds pretty competitive the other half until Golota got disqualified. Bowe didn't look good even when he did hurt, outland, and outboxed Golota in spots. He was sloppy, much more uncoordinated than usual and had low energy after round 4. He was past his prime and his lifestyle had a lot to do with it

 

I take your points on board, but i think i'm done with this debate now. I think reasonably more or less we've come to an agreement, and nothing else really needs to be said, But it was good to have a back and forth debate, and share some thoughts in respectful manner, have fun with the rest of topic.

 

Maybe but there's nothing suggesting Bentt doesn't beat Morrison more often than not. He pretty much blitzed Morrison with combinations lead by a counter. He retired after he lost to Hide. He lost first fight but could've been more.

 

Yeah man sorry if i came across harsh in any way. You're a good poster and made a lot of good points. I agree that Bowe has a somewhat thin resume. He wasted his potential and him ducking Lewis hurt him

 

Nah you didn't come across harsh at all, you put forth good arguments no complaints it was a good back and forth.

 

He's just outside.
Of course the top10 is out of reach for him with the names in there, but then you have the 11 to 20 guys, wich feature the likes of Liston, Marciano, Langford, Tyson, Vitali, Dempsey, Johansson, Walcott, Schmeling and Norton. For me he's in the upper next tier below.
If you go top25, then he's in. But going 20, he's out in my book.
And if Fury really retires next (don’t believe that), he would be in a very tight battle with him, for the same spot.

 

Golota also probably seriously damaged his reproductive system too LOL

 

Riddick certainly had talent He sort of looked the part but what happened when Lennox destroyed Ruddock??
Eddie Papa Smurf Futch was quoted saying " Rock don't let Riddick near Lewis he's not ready" Rock wasnt going to argue & Riddick himself knew in his heart he couldnt beat Lennox. Hence the belt in the trash can BS