Is Sergey Kovalev an ATG?

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Is Kovalev an ATG

  1. Yes

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    49.2%
  2. No

    62 vote(s)
    50.8%
  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Good... That's what you get for talking nonsense and not paying attention to your crooked sidewalks. Froch still has more depth to his resume.
     
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  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Youre tripping
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    good but i believe they both fought pascal?

    Anyway, frochs resume speaks for itself, its a chain of world to elite.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Here ye, here ye.

    I'll be writing an article tonight addressing the who's greater Kovalev, Kessler and Froch.=, debate.

    And give the definitive answer.:deal:
     
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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Many don't even know what Kessler did before his loss to Calzaghe and then hyped him when Ward beat him later but don't know anything more about him other than the Froch fights.
    Kessler has a very solid resume of top SMW wins
    Mundine between SMW title reigns
    Beyer 3 time and reigning champ
    Siaca when champ
    Sartison future champ undefeated
    Lucas when world rated and former champ
    Andrade when world rated
    Haussler former European champ

    When faded
    Beat undefeated champ Froch and champ Magee
     
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  6. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Hmmmm you're not making a strong case for kessler
     
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  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    kov has a fair case for elite (or at least repeat titlist) pascal and that draw with surefire hof ward.

    froch has elite kessler, titlist bute and elite taylor as well as pascal. Groves is just the pudding.

    froch is ahead, just by sheer dint of aiming so high ever since he hit the world scene. He is not a great fighter ever but theres no questioning the respect he garnered and deserved for winning some of those high points. He carved out his own elitedom.

    Sergey is of course elite too, and stands very close.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Wdym when he finally stepped up? OG was a prospect going into the Stevenson fight, and he had fought tough competition before.
     
  9. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    According to Boxrec these are the top 13 fighters in Light Heavyweight History:

    Archie Moore
    Roy Jones Jr
    Tommy Gibbons
    Joey Maxim
    Michael Spinks
    Antonio Tarver
    Bob Foster
    Billy Conn
    Tommy Loughran
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Virgil Hill
    Harold Johnson
    Sergey Kovalev


    The records of the following men are too old to compare:
    Tommy Gibbons
    Joey Maxim
    Billy Conn
    Tommy Loughran
    Harold Johnson

    Archie Moore
    May has a record of 10-2 (5 KOs) in world title fights.
    May has a record of 8-8-1 (2 KOs) against former, current, and future world champions

    Roy Jones Jr
    Has a record of 22-3 (14 KOs) in world title fights.
    Has a record of 19-9 (8 KOs) against former, current and future world titlists.

    Michael Spinks
    Has a record of 14-1 (9 KO) in World Title fights.
    Has a record of 7-1 (2 KO) against former world titlists.

    Antonio Tarver
    Has a record of 3-3-0 (1 KO) in World Title fights.
    Has a record of 7-5-1 (2 KO) against former or current world titlists.

    Bob Foster
    Has a record of 14-1-1 (11) in World Title fights.

    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Has a record of 6-4 (6 KO) in World Title fights.
    Has a record of 8-8 (7 KO) against former world titlists.

    Virgil Hill
    Has a record of 24-5 (7 KO) in World Title fights.
    Has a record of 11-7 (3 KO) against former or current world titlists.

    Sergey Kovalev
    Has a record of 13-3 (10 KO) in world title fights.
    Has a record of 6-3 (4 KO) against former or current world titlists


    Sergey’s competition is a bit light compared to other former Light Heavy Weight greats, but he’s on par with Antonio Tarver. I personally would consider him a shoe in HOF, maybe an ATG for his weight class, not even close to ATG for top boxers ever to do it.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Tarver vs. Kovalev resume
    1. Best win: Tarver by a mile (Jones II)

    2. Harding, Johnson, Jones III, Griffin, Woods, R. Johnson, Green>Alvarez, Ancient Hopkins, Chilemba, Pascalx2, Cleverly

    Bad loses near prime:
    Kovlev stopped twice. Tarver looked like crap against Hopkins

    Titles:
    Tarver--4x 175 champ, was the man at 175 after beating Jones and Glen Johnson.
    Kovalev--3x champ, never ruled the division bc of Stevenson.

    Ams:
    Tarver by a mile

    Conclusion: Tarver's career is better than Kovalev's
     
  11. Bah Lance

    Bah Lance Active Member banned Full Member

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    No Ezzard Charles...no credibility.
     
  12. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Roy Jones of Virgil Hill stop Kovalev no problem.
     
  13. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    GR8 Post!!