Is the Middleweight Title Cursed??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by warrior85, Apr 18, 2010.


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  1. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    look at whats happened to the two fighters that have held it since hopkins.

    taylor(draw with winky,two sub par wins over jr middles,2 losses to pavlik,sub par win over lacy,back to back ko's)

    pavlik(decent win over taylor,the lockett debacle,schooled by hopkins,two mediocre wins against no hopers,beaten by martinez)

    both guys were on top of the world when they won it,touted as future superstars & within 3 years they're careers had nosedived BADLY

    how the hell is martinez's career gonna go from here?

    i swear b-hop cursed the title
     
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  2. Wiirdo

    Wiirdo Boxing Addict banned

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    When they stole the title from B-Hop, karma has been on it's ass.
     
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  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cursed? Nah, they're just fighters with flaws who faced guys with the right types of styles to expose the flaws.
     
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  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bingo. That happens when you've got guys who are essentially on or close to the same level and aren't quite good enough to overcome stylistic disadvantages. :good
     
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  5. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    dont kill the illussion man:lol::good
     
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  6. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not cursed - just a weak divison.

    Bhop - B fighter who is called an ATG for his longevity. never fought outside his home country and was beat when he fought true ATGs (who were not smaller than him) Calzaghe and RJJ.

    JT - Beat Bhop but really another overated fighter, lost to Pavlik. and then went on to be exposed when he fought Froch and AA.

    Pavlik - famous for being the man who beat the man - but really was never that good.

    If B-Hop, Pavlik and JT were European - then JT/Pavlik would be called Eurobums and B-Hop would be given grudging credit.
     
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  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Calzaghe isnt an ATG son.
     
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  8. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    hopkins fights have sucked the life out of fans so i can ee how it could to the fighters.:D
     
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  9. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    :good
     
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  10. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    Why would an American fighter want to fight outside the US? :huh
     
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  11. Wiirdo

    Wiirdo Boxing Addict banned

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    Hopkins a B fighter?!?!?!

    **** me....
     
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  12. Manfish03

    Manfish03 New Member Full Member

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    MWD is not as competitive as at earlier times but at least it's not the SuperHeavyDivision which has sucked since the years of Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield and Lewis.
     
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  13. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just to be picky, he has fought at altitude in Ecuador.I draw I believe
     
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  14. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    3 problems. BHOP has fought outside his country before. he fought segundo mercado in ecuador. calzaghe is only an ATG when talking about crackheads. and he avenged one loss thanks to his longevity in the sport, though it was ugly, and would've avenged his one to calzaghe had calzaghe not ran like a *****. he knows he lost the first fight to hopkins and that's why he ran away from the rematch.
     
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  15. EleventhHour

    EleventhHour Got Dat Black & Gold Soul Full Member

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    Please, get your facts straight. He's a COKEhead.

    But also, really, Big Left? Bernard is a B-fighter? You've got to be kidding me. And why on earth would he ever want to fight outside the US as an American fighter? When European fighters never leave the Continent they get blamed for never fighting in America. USA is where all the biggest fights are. You're a ******.
     
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