Is Tyson an ATG?

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  1. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How would you know that. The TS is right. What if Tyson was primed and motivated in the 70's with Ali, Foreman, Holmes and countless others, he would do what? He was the youngest HW champion who beat Berbick. At that stage of the HW era, all the greats were pretty much done. Then you get the Berbicks, Bonecrusher, Tuckers, and the rest of the one hit wonders.
     
  2. Dave_JR

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    Youngest champ ever,wins over Holmes,Tubbs,Berbick,Spinks, Tucker,Biggs, even Bruno - all who would dominate todays HW division.
    Shame a lying ***** got him sent to jail in what i believe would have been his true prime 25-28.
     
  3. Manjuice

    Manjuice chiastic contrapposto Full Member

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    Youngest man to become heavyweight champ. Unified all the belts. Spanked spinks and holmes. Biggest boxing draw before the era of ppv fights, infact started the ppv era. The man did three years in prison. Came out and unified the belts again. Lost to holyfields head. Lost to the medication the Lewis camp required him to take before the fight. I love Tyson. If u don't think he's an all time great than that's ur opinion but he will be in the HOF.
     
  4. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    None of those guys would win belt in today's division.
    And I thought Tyson was already past his prime when Douglas crushed him.
     
  5. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    so it wasnt lewis' fists?
     
  6. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Theres some things that cannot be overlooked.

    What Tyson showed in the ring during the mid 80's to early 90's in terms of his speed, his power, his head movement, his combinations was something special, and would have given any heavyweight trouble to a certain extent. For a 5 ft 11 heavyweight to slip jabs and punches to get in the inside and throw hooks over and over again, it was something impressive thats why he had tht respect in that time period.

    But his resume is not as good as Holyfield, or Lennox Lewis and many other HW
     
  7. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know there are some on here who believe Spinks is as good a win as Lewis's over Vitali and Holy:lol:
     
  8. headhunter

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    I'm sorry mate but that is total Bollocks.

    The best fighter he ever beat was Michael Spinks and he was a fat LH weight.A very good fat LH mind.

    Tyson is a classic case of what meant have been.
     
  9. Body Head

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    Europe sucks ****, **** britain **** u all europe sucks!@!!!!


    Yeahhhh baby!!!!!

    Even lennox lewis trained in canada since he was 12 so he's practically a canadian.

    Yeahhhhhh baby **** europe!!
     
  10. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree.
     
  11. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    He was a dominant champion.

    We don't even have an undisputed champion today.
     
  12. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never said he is the best Heavyweight that ever lived.

    What i should have said was Prime Tyson would have caused problems for any heavyweight if they happen to fight.
     
  13. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Of course Tyson is an all time great

    and I'm one of those people who have him losing most of the fantasy hypothetical fights.
     
  14. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only imbecile may ask if Tyson is ATG, only the complete moron may deny his status
     
  15. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    To add to your point, unlike some whose stock actually go up after a spirited loss, Tyson's losses were nothing short of brutal beatdowns, in which he looked amateurish in every single one.