Is Usyk miles above Bivol pfp ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Apr 29, 2025.

  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2021
    Messages:
    17,236
    Likes Received:
    19,212
    Is Usyk multiple levels above Bivol in regards to resume and achievements
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2012
    Messages:
    74,871
    Likes Received:
    42,399
    Yes. Not even remotely close.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2014
    Messages:
    31,806
    Likes Received:
    42,770
    I vote yes, although Bivol has nothing to be ashamed of.
     
    EJDiaZ, Fogger, BubblesUK and 2 others like this.
  4. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2020
    Messages:
    6,167
    Likes Received:
    6,630
    How many pound for pound fighters has Bicol beat vs Usyk beat. Usyk gets special treatment no one else does because of the myth of the mega heavy. No man fury’s size has ever been clear #1 at HW besides fury very briefly yet fans treat it like a GOAT tier win because of his size.
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2025
  5. chairmanpow

    chairmanpow New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2024
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    220
    I wouldn't say miles. Beating the top dogs at HW with a massive size disadvantage does put Usyk at pfp 1, but fact is he hasn't beaten anyone as good as Beterbiev or Canelo, who are both also PFP fighters.
     
  6. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2014
    Messages:
    3,556
    Likes Received:
    2,224
  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2014
    Messages:
    39,951
    Likes Received:
    17,034
    I would say Usyks win over AJ is better than Canelo. Of course Canelo is superior but Canelo was fighting out of his weight class and Usyk was fighting the bigger man.

    The win over Beterbiev is arguably better than any Usyk win. Fury would be arguable, but let’s be real, he lost to Ngannou a boxing novice, even if you make the case that he didn’t take it seriously, I think there’s no doubt Fury would was not close to his peak.

    In terms of overall quality and moving up in weight, Usyks resume is definitely superior.
     
  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2012
    Messages:
    9,639
    Likes Received:
    11,400
    Since P4P lists are mostly useless, I'll go with just under 12 parsecs above Bivol
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2022
    Messages:
    17,640
    Likes Received:
    38,102
    No he isn't.

    Bivol has beaten 2 top 10 P4P fighters and his top 2 wins are better than Usyk's best wins.

    Beterbiev----> Fury
    Canelo---> Joshua

    Usyk has a better resume overall because hes been undisputed in 2 weightclasses and the fighters he's beaten with size differences does give him the edge.

    But if Bivol has 1 or 2 more quality wins say win the trilogy vs Beterbiev and beats Benavidez then it would be alot closer.
     
    FrankinDallas likes this.
  10. OddR

    OddR Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2025
    Messages:
    3,025
    Likes Received:
    3,208
    Miles is a strong word I say.
     
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  11. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2011
    Messages:
    48,709
    Likes Received:
    28,806
    Usyk wouldn't struggle with a man who basically only has power on him and a shot knee nearly 40 years old in Berb. Although I do think Berb beat him in amatuers 2 rounds to 1.

    Usyk is better than Bivol and has changed his fighting style to compete better at heavyweight majority of his ring circling has gone has fought men 50 pounds naturally heavier

    Canelo is the most overrated fighter next to Crawford. All the boxing heads had Bivol to box his ugly little ginger nut off and he did with ease in 2nd gear.

    Usyk & Fury are generational special fighters.

    Bivol is a fantastic, top tier but not jesus level which is where Usyk stands.
     
  12. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2022
    Messages:
    3,357
    Likes Received:
    4,111
    Ramírez? Who now fights at crusierweight
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2021
    Messages:
    17,236
    Likes Received:
    19,212
  14. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2006
    Messages:
    13,276
    Likes Received:
    20,747
    Yes Usyk is better.

    Bivol barely beat a past it Beterbiev. And i am a Bivol fan.

    Usyk dominated a better cruiserweight division than Bivol's light-heavyweight division.

    Usyk is also a better body puncher and has more p4p power.