Is Vasyl Lomachenko vs Gervonta Davis possible in 2020?

Alot of fighters lose when they step up. Broner proved that he wasn't elite and has failed when he has stepped up multiple times. Maidana, Porter Mikey and Pac. He hasn't been seen as a real threat since he lost to Maidana and the way he lost to Porter really ended any hype. He has been a joke for years now and has checked out only fighting for money.
He didn't arguably lose, the fight was just closer than people expected it to be. Maidana did nothing in the second half of that fight and lost. In the rematch PBF damn near shut him out.

 

Come on mate, floyd literally started the “it’s not about fights it’s about money” playbook. Fighters did it before but never so as openly as Floyd did.

Floyd has openly said they’re waiting for tank to get old. Lol.

“So my thing is this, with all these young fighters — ya'll calling out 'Oh we wanna fight Tank'...at the end of the day, guess what? Tank has a promoter.

"Tank can come to me and say 'Floyd, this is the fight that I want.' At the end of the day I'm gonna say 'Tank, there's no rush, you're still young...You got a lot of fight left in you. You're only 22....I mean if he wanna fight until he's 36, 37, he's still got 15 years left. He okay. But if you rush and fight all the hard fights right now, you ain't gonna be able to make it to 38...”

He even said tank asked for the fight and he told tank no rush. Lol. Loma is how old? He aging that mofo.

 

Mayweather shut him out in the rematch, I’ve said many times that if floyd choose to fighter a certain “way” he can win easily. but the first was an MD for a reason and a rematch happened for a reason. Plenty of people had maidana winning depending on your criteria.

How does broner not beating those guys tell you he’s below Ramirez level? Guess what, Ramirez would probably get stopped by all of those 4 opponents broner lost to.

It’s a bit like Mikey fighting Pac next, then Crawford, then Loma and him losing to all 3 meaning he lost 4 in a row and we say he’s not elite anymore. Maybe, or maybe those guys are just a level above him.

Logically you just can’t use those 4 losses as an indicator that broner would lose to Ramirez, because all 4 would stop Ramirez. Ramirez was pac’s Secondary sparring partner ffs.

 

People who hate PBF and don't know how to score fight thought he lost. Just because a guy does better than expected and gives a guy a tough fight doesn't mean you win. That's what people got caught up in on when discussing this fight. Maidana expended a lot of energy to fight the way he did early and was willing to sell out to do so but he blew his load and this was 12 round fight not a 6 round fight and PBF knew it and paced himself accordingly and turned it up in the second half.

This has nothing to do with Ramirez, who I would pick to beat Broner at 140 BTW. Quit trying to make Pac's win over Broner into something special, I see you working here. Broner hasn't been good for a long time and everyone here already knew what was going to happen when that fight was signed. Broner will be Broner talk a big game land a few clean shots or counters here there admire his work and start mugging for the camera and clowning. He simply doesn't let his hands go enough to win rounds let alone win fights and mainly just fights not to get knocked out and survive when he realizes what he has done isn't going to be enough. Broner doesn't have the workrate to be elite, he will always get outworked. The blueprint has been out there on Broner for years, stop!

 

I rated broner way before the Pac fight was even announced. This guy went from being overrated to underrated. My view of him has been consistent. So is my logic.

Broner would have performed far better against all 4 of his losses than Ramirez would against all 4 of the same opponents, all of whom would stop him.

And no, the fact that you, the most biased Floyd fanatic in this forum thought the fight was close is a guaranteed surefire way to know that floyd probably lost.

 

Davis should separate and distance himself from Mayweather. They have nothing in common in or outside the ring.

 

Broner has been exposed years ago give it up. It's no wonder when that fight was announced people laughed about it. You're one of the the biggest Pac fans on here so what you say about how great Broner is after Pac fought him can't be taken seriously anyway. He's seen as a laughingstock here, those are facts

I say the PBF-Maidana fight was close because it was close for a PBF fight, because he typically dominates his opponents with ease and takes no damage in the process to do so. PBF was fouled and cut early for the 1st time in his career which bothered him and took him awhile to adjust, after that he went to work and won the second half of the fight going away. It was the pressure rough housing tactics and the Maidana willing to sell out combined with his age which made this fight more difficult for him than usual. With that said he did indeed win.

 

What's up, man? Glad to see a few of the sensible, old guard posters are still around.

While I don't think Tank beats Loma, I am actually reasonably high on the kid. I do think, for example, he'd stop Berchelt--the supposed class of 130lbs-- late in a firefight.

 

What up? I haven't seen you around in a while. Yeah I think Loma beats Tank but like you I think he stops Berchelt late in a great fight.

 

Yeah, I've just been busy with work, family ect. You know how it is.

No one, myself included, is overly enthused about Tank's recent opposition. But he unquestionably has fluid power, speed, and equally important delivers game changing shots with a poise and composure and doesn't seem to be in a hurry. Truthfully, I think he's likely the most naturally gifted (besides Loma) fighter between 130-135lbs. I like him more than Teofimo, for instance.

 

loma offers salido dollars and cents and everyone claims it was a serious offer

 

I personally love watching both Tank and Loma fight. I find no need to hate on either guy, as they're both amazing talents. And you're right the whole "triangle theory" and comparing common opponents garbage is futile. Each fight has it's own set of circumstances and styles. However, I do get sick of people making excuses for Pedraza in the Davis fight. Pedraza took the fight, he fought the way he fought, and he got his ass whipped. It's as simple as that. But, you're right, it doesn't mean jack squat when it comes to Tank-Loma.

Tank needs to step up his level of opposition before he ever thinks of stepping in the ring with Loma, or he will get his ears boxed off. Hopefully he continues to mature as he ages. The kid as enormous potential and hits like a truck, but until his mental tools catch up to his physical tools, I'm not real sure where his career is headed. He is still only 24 and has plenty of time to get his **** together and I for one, I hope he does. But it's also time for him to start fighting legit opponents asap. We all know he can bang out these gatekeepers with ease. It's become pointless.

 

0.0% chance that Gervonta Davis will be allowed in the ring with Loma in 2020.

They'll think that they can wait till Loma is a faded old husk of a man....but i dont see that happening. Loma doesn't seem like the type to hang around too long. He already feels his point is made as an amateur and professional. As soon as he feels a little lag he'll hang them up and not return.

I think the first sign of this is the fact that he'll head back down to 130lbs and leave the glorified lightweight division because he feels more natural at the weight. He only came up here for Garcia who ducked and now he's only hanging around for Fimo/Comney winner.

 

If they fight 2 years from now, Loma will only be 33. He's not old yet. Tank needs to face more adversity before facing a fighter as skilled as Loma. I hope he does because he's blowing through everybody.