Jack Johnson All Time Ranking

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Johnson's resume isn't as glittery as later heavyweight champ s but that's largely because of the era he fought in.
    He consistently beat the best opponents in front of him , including several hall of fame level guys.
    Your judging him by by modern standards with out considering the complex of the time s he fought in gives an incomplete picture.
     
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    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have him 11th in my Top 15.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I could judge him by 1930's standards and arrive at the same conclusion. Even with Dempsey''s egregious ducking of Wills I find his resume better. By Louis's time there is little comparison.
     
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    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    Johnson is rated highly by many due to his historical impact etc or as Emmanuel Steward pointed out due to his arrogance.
     
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    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Does Dempsey have a better resume? Whatever idleness Johnson had as champion was forced upon him. Dempsey went Hollywood.
     
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    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Johnson was run out of his own country becoming a fugitive. That had to impact his title reign.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Dempsey had a much easier career as contender/champ. In fact, it couldn't be more drastic. Dempsey had the rails greased for him while Johnson fought uphill the whole time.
     
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    I haven't been too impressed with him on film. I think that his historical standing greatly outweighs his in-ring ability.
     
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    Noel857 I Am Duran

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    I have him at #5 behind
    Ali
    Louis
    Holmes
    Lewis
     
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