Jake LaMotta vs Kid Gavilan

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Raging Bull vs The Cuban Hawk at 160. Both known for giving a prime Sugar Ray Robinson a tough fight. This match up would have been excellent between two hardened fighters. The Kid didn't have much success at capturing a MW title but could he have been able to beat a guy like LaMotta using his boxing skills and speed? Or would The Raging Bull be too strong for the Kid?
     
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  2. Greg Price99

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    Gavilan was better p4p.

    Gavilan was a better WW than LaMotta was at MW.

    At MW, I think I'd make the naturally heavier LaMotta a narrow favourite to win a close, debatable decision.
     
  3. Stevie G

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    LaMotta takes a narrow decision primarily because of him being the naturally bigger man. I rate Gavilan as a Top 5 welterweight all time great.
     
  4. RockyValdez

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    Gavilan didnt handle strong middleweights well at all.
     
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    True. He was n't built to be bigger than 147lbs while functioning at optimum efficiency.
     
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  6. Fergy

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    Jake by decision imo.
     
  7. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lamotta would be too big.
     
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    Lamotta by gift decision like most of his decision wins
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    LaMotta would win a competitive decision. Robinson proved himself a level above the great Gavilan by the time both fights were done. He also retained ATG power at middleweight which certainly helped his cause against a bully like Jake. The Kid by comparison is a light hitter. Jake just too strong and relentless, with The Kid going hard all the way to a decision loss.
     
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