james j jeffries in the 50's

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  1. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if we could transplant jeffries into the 1950's how would he of done given that he would of been trained using the 1950's methods
     
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    If he was exactly the same, he and Marciano wouldve been a great tussle!!!
     
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    Him and Charles would be interesting too.
     
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    Ezzard via sparkage ;-)
     
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    Yeah, late (ish) rounds KO.
     
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    Ezzard Charles via whatever he wants.

    Ezzard Charles...
     
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    Fleaman you seem to be the authority on old stuff, isnt it true that he lost 7 stone or something to fight johnson?
     
  8. GazOC

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    4-5 stone is the figure I've seen mentioned.
     
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    interesting. i remember seeing a photo of him in training for johnson and he was absolutely stacked.


    Gaz / Flea, on this topic, whats the biggest weight drop for a fight in boxing history (maybe the jefferies example aside)?

    Hatton used to do a couple stone didnt he? doing that away from the heavyweight division is mental
     
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    I think he was around 300lbs and (stupidly) tried to get down to his prime fighting weight of 220lbs (which he achieved!) A more natural but fit weight of 250 and the fight could've been different IMO.

    I'm not certain on that Path'....maybe Gaz can help? Duran in the 2nd Leonard fight, Margarito in the Mosley fight, both had big cuts IIRC. I mean, Jeffries was a bigg'un; funny thing was he was only 6'!!!!
     
  11. wrimc

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    if you look at the pictures of when they signed the contracts and some of the early training pics of Jeffries he looks easily 300 pounds. compare it with those on fight night its amazing the condition he was able to whip himself into.
     
  12. pathmanc1986

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    Bowe for the 2nd Golota fight dropped somthing big i think


    6' and 300lbs!!!!!! he must'nt have been able to move nevermind fight. Corrales RIP was a big weight dropper too wasnt he


    Not to forget to mention the forums very own Tony Bellew - did he go from 200 to 175?
     
  13. GazOC

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    One of the first things Jeffries did when the fight was signed was to go to a German health spa and dropped over 2 stones before he even started training.

    I can't think of a bigger drop in weight TBH. Duran is a good call, I believe John L Sullivan had also really let himself go before the Corbett fight and hadn't had a "real" fight in 4 years prior to that bout.
     
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    I have no idea how Corrales made Super feather he was the size of a middleweight
     
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    Corrales is a good pick.

    G-Man was cutting from 200lbs to 168, apparently.