James Toney as a heavyweight?

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  1. lufcrazy

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    If there's anyone I pick to avoid a big it's prime Jones. He just didnt take hard shots in his prime.

    I think he could potshot his way to victory over any fighter in history he's just too fast and too elusive.

    The well trained heavyweights who fought hard all fight likely catch up to him but someone like sanders who relied on timin and speed, he ain't gonna catch Jones as he'd be countered before he lands his own counter and he'll find Jones is out of range again before he throws his shot.
     
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    I'm sure I had holy winning the last fight with Ruiz.
     
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    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, he'd do two or three times as well against Sonny than Floyd did.

    He might even make it to round 4.
     
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    I don't think liston stops Toney. Shuts him out but doesn't stop him.
     
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    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly how I see it. That give a guy the shoulder and then playing lets feint each other on the outside is not going to work against Liston. He'd need a footwork improvement of about 700% to pull that off.
     
  6. MadcapMaxie

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    Hmmm tough one, Peter dropped Toney with a jab and Liston has probably the hardest jab around, also much more complete and technical fighter than Peter plus an actual gastank. I think he could TKO Toney, probably wouldn't legit stop him tho. Be very interesting to see Toney try and bully Liston and pull his cute tricks although I doubt he'd have much success countering Liston as he stayed on the outside of that jab.
     
  7. Sugar Nick

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    Toney of Jirov-Holyfield era is a very good heavyweight. Better than Adamek. He would beat all journeymen and borderline contenders.
    I bet if Jirov version of Toney were around 3 years ago he could get a belt or two as a heavyweight.

    He could have beaten Lewis @ 200 pounds,one hand behind his back.
     
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    Once he's in his shell I don't think anyone stops him.
     
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    Peter caught him off balance. It scored yeah but it didnt hurt Toney at all. Come on,we both know it.
    It was a flash kd
     
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    How many middleweights survive sam peter twice?
     
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    Yeah once Toney is in survival mode you'll struggle to stop him.
     
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    There’s no performance Toney gave at heavyweight to suggest he was a formidable head-to-head force in the division.