James Toney vs. the best middleweights - super middle weights of the past 50 years, excluding active

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Oct 5, 2020.


How does Toney do vs. Jones, Hopkins, Calzaghe, Hagler and Monzon?

  1. 0-5

    3 vote(s)
    13.0%

  2. 1-4

    6 vote(s)
    26.1%

  3. 2-3

    8 vote(s)
    34.8%

  4. 3-2

    3 vote(s)
    13.0%

  5. 4-1

    3 vote(s)
    13.0%

  6. 5-0

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This answer is non-sequential really...is it the result of a GGG/Toney discussion?
     
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  2. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You should like him because a crack dealer from Michigan got his life together enough to not sell crack. Gave a shout to a fast food restuarant before telling Don King to kiss his ass. Smokes cigars in the ring and was winning heavyweight fights as a tubby former middle weight who was about as intelligible as an electric can opener by the end. He gave his life and brain to boxing. It showed in the ring.

    Also he is the best back foot inside fighter on film. First Boxer to fight in the UFC. A counter puncher who is the only guy to land over 400 punches in a fight more than 4 times. Responsible for some of the most beautiful sequences in boxing history. Took his first title as a 20-1 underdog by knocking out the number 3 pound for pound fighter in boxing in his hometown.
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He'd lose 0-5.

    He barely beat Williams and Tiberi.
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well of course you see it as 0-5 or 1-4.

    That's why you made the thread in the first place.

    To make you feel better after the results of the GG-Toney thread.

    Let's make it interesting and have GG vs the same fighters.
     
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  5. CharlesBurley

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    It sounds like you rate boxers based on how ethical you perceive them as
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    According to this Mendoz guy , Toney goes 0-5 , but Golovkin would go 5-0.
     
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  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I just want to see hoe the board views Toney. For example this thread is not even 24 hours old and one poster felt Toney would go 4-1 vs the best 5 middles -super middles in the past 50 years. If the fanboys from the GGG/Toney thread wish to vote here, they can. I already leaned something from one reply.
     
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  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Are you going to vote in the poll. The forum is open. What's your opinion?
     
    Mendoza, Oct 6, 2020
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You are the fanboy.
     
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  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll be voting 0-5 shortly.

    How could he have beaten guys like Hagler etc, if he barely beat Tiberi?

    Are you going to answer my questions that were put to you on the other thread?

    Thanks.
     
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He rates boxers, depending on how people think they'd fair against his favourite fighters.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:
    But do you want to see that because of a GGG/Toney thread?
     
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  13. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Thanks for an intestine post, but not factually correct. Art Jimmerson was the first boxer to fight in the MMA ( 1993 ). Toney did give it a try, his record ended at 0-1. Toney like some other criminal types that turn to boxing was a good athlete.. He was a good football player, but too small to play it last high school. He turned to boxing and it worked for him. A loose cannon type, sorry my hero's do not include people who sell drugs to teenagers, or threaten to kill someone with a gun.

    I'm not sure about landing 400 punches 4 times being a record. I highly doubt that.

    He's also a racist POS. Quoting his words:
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    Of course Toney ran from a fight with Wlad who would have knocked him out.
     
    Mendoza, Oct 6, 2020
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  14. dinovelvet

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    lol@ calling people fanboys while having that avatar. . Remind me again how Hrgovic has been moved faster than Mike Tyson. :nut:
     
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  15. Loudon

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    For sure.

    Is he normally like this?

    I've not had many dealings with him before.

    Is he respected on the Classic?
     
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