JCC Vs Duran at 135

How then do you know it was offered?

No, it was a big deal because the top two P4P fighters in the world were squaring off.

How so? Chavez was not far removed from his prime, don't act like he was. The bottom line is, a bad style matchup is a bad style matchup. If you want to say that Chavez was better at LW(which he was) I will say the same for Whitaker(as it is also true). Chavez was a better overall fighter, with better workrate and phsycal ability. Pea was quicker, more nimble, and had a much better workrate at LW than he did at WW also. So it all comes down to styles. Would it have been closer? Perhaps, but IMO, Pea still wins, his style was at it's best against pressure fighters, as he was a master off fighting off the back foot.

OK, when did I say otherwise? They were also the same size when Pea handily beat Chavez in '93.

Pea boxed and moved, yes, that was his style. He was a boxer, not a brawler. He didn't dance at any point during the fight, to say so shows that either you haven't seen the fight in a long time, don't understand boxing, or are biased for Chavez.

He wasn't at his peak, that was in his Lightweight days, but he was still regarded as the P4P best in the world, and was coming off two big wins over Camacho and Haugen. So don't act like he was shot or anything close to it either. And again, Whitaker was also past his Lightweight prime.

 

Both are in my all time favorite list . . . but I'll pick Duran on this . . . just because I see Duran as a deeper all around fighter than JCC.

 

i like jcc and even route for jr. cause of i'm such a fan of his dad, but duran by UD. the style chavez excelled in, duran did better with more dimensions. better defense, better power, came at different angles, better boxing ability, better punch technique and more punch variety. duran was just a beast at 135, no.1/no.2 h2h fighter in that weight along with whitaker.

 

Roberto Duran at lightweight beats Julio Cesar Chavez by a decision, or a last round tko. Duran was more skilled, and could vary the tempo of the fight with skill and fury.

 

Duran would have showed better defense than Chavez if they ever fought, thats going on the evidence of what any knowledgeable person knows about both fighters.

 

Yeah he whipped him to a draw. I thought this thread was supposed to be Chavez-Duran not Chavez-Whittaker.

 

Chavez in his prime wouldn't get stopped by anyone under 147, no ****ing one. So all the people saying Duran would stop him in the late rounds, pass some of that weed down this way. Chavez was too ****ing strong. No way Duran stops Chavez.

 

There is a way, but I doubt he would.

On the other hand, I don't think there's ANY way Chavez goes the distance with Hearns or SRR. I also think Napoles, Griffith, Walker, and Leonard have a good chance of stopping him at 147.

You should've said 140, then I might agree with you. Chavez fought once near his prime at 147, and got handled by a small WW in his own right in Whitaker. No way was 147 anywhere near natural for him. 140 and under I agree with you, noone is likely to stop him.

 

how do you see chavez - pryor going at 140? i think its a 50/50 fight.

 

I think Pryor's awkward, never stop style is honestly a foil for Chavez's style. He wouldn't allow Chavez to build up a rythm or to get his offense going when confronted full force with the assault of Pryor. Pryor was also very slippery and somehow accurate with those punches from awkward angles if you've seen enough of him. Very unique, yet relentless style, he's a hard one to pick against in his prime.

I just think his in and out, slippery, awkward, yet relentless and accurate style would give Chavez a very hard time setting himself up for accurate punches and it would force Chavez to actually fight on his heels at times. I wouldn't be surprised if Chavez tried to box at different stages of this fight, as he did when faced with other pressure fighters, in fact I'd count on it. I think he just gets outworked in this one, similar to the Taylor fight, difference being, Pryor has more power and a better chin. Would be about an 8-4 type decision for Pryor I think.

On the flip side, one thing Chavez could utilize well would be body-punching, as Arguello was able to use it well in spurts. Only time he seemed to make Pryor switch it up a bit as well in their fights, when he went to the body. Seemed somewhat effective. That's likely why Chavez would be taking some rounds. It may even be a 7-5(if we're talking 12 rounds) decision if it slows Pryor down late, but Pryor would not be easily figured out by Chavez.

 

cool assesment. i envisioned it going a bit like the taylor fight too. pryor would definitely have jcc backpeddaling with his nonstop asault, and build a lead through to the mid rounds, with jcc still getting some body work done. that would be a good investment allowing jcc to win some of the later rounds making it close.

 

Was he ever hurt??? It's a no brainer nobody below 140 even comes close at stopping him. Leonard????????????????????? Now you're just getting silly.

 

Pryor???? Who did he ever beat?? other than Arguello. I don't know I am starting to think you just hate JCC.

 

Head to head, Pryor is a beast at 140 and to 135 pounders moving up to 140. He didn't accomplish as much as Chavez, but I'd favor him nonetheless.

 

NO doubt he was a beast but Chavez' head and chin were made of granite. Chavez would break him before Pryor breaks him.