Jean Pascal vs. Lucian Bute

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  1. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It won't seem so bad on the 19th.

    Grachev is **** and Bute couldn't even beat him convincingly, he always was pure hype.
     
  2. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because on top of Bute being exposed against Froch, the Grachev fight showed how his confidence is shot. He would have destroyed Grachev pre Froch imo.

    Aswell, it's his last, and only fight since he was beat up by Froch and imo shows how he's taken the (brutal) loss.

    He gets KO'd.
     
  3. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe because thats his most recent fight? :lol: :patsch
     
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    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Me thinking hed have beat grachev convincingly pre Froch does not mean that he wasnt pure hype. He got exposed the first time he stepped up.

    Whether he was hype or not ain't debatable. Froch expsosed him, not Grachev.
     
  6. laffie

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    Every fighter going up is hyped. Some of them win and prove they were diserving the hype. The majority of them fall down. No big deal about that.

    Pascal looked like **** in his 2 last fights. What does that mean to you? That he will be **** in 11 days? How many Bute fights have you seen? Two? Three? What do you know about him that could make your opinion worthy?

    ArseBandit, you are a hyped boxing fan.
     
  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    any one know the odds on this fight
    as im courious
     
  8. Boxed Ears

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  9. DaveyScan

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    Don't want to burst your bubble, but he did look pretty good versus Blades. Not that Blades is any good. But look like ****? Objectivity please.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    I think Pascal is like a 4/5 favorite.
     
  11. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    thanks IB
    what is bute :huh
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Pascal is 2/3; Bute is 5/4. :good
     
  13. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    You are right, he didn't look like **** against Blades but his old flaws were there: he was swinging large punches and his balance was not good. He looked like the Pascal before Dawson. That being said, he had not to be at his best because of the opponent he had in front of him.


    All I wanted to say is taking only the last fight as data for predicting the next one doesn't work. Froch should have lost to Abraham and Bute because he had just lost before. Well, he won easily both fights.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Pascal styled on Blades. That was a return to form.

    It was versus Kuziemski that he looked ****, and it was because of injury.
     
  15. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    He looked **** before the injury. Pascal is not the most dedicated boxer in the world. He needs a challenge to perform well and Kuziemski is not one. I expect Pascal to be at his best against Bute.