Jean Pascal vs. Lucian Bute

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Before the injury, meaning Hopkins I & II?

    Bernard makes everybody look shitty. :nono Hell, Bute himself was made to look clumsy and ordinary at times by a lower-grade spoiler in Magee.

    The healthy Pascal from Diaconu I through Dawson thrashes any version of Bute we have ever seen. If the Blades tuneup was any indication, the shoulder is doing fine which means Pascal is a rightful favorite.
     
  2. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What? I've seen all of his fights live since he fought Miranda. (And a fair few of his fights on youtube)

    Pascal actually has a resume. Bute has beat (A very old) Glen Johnson.:rofl

    Every fighter going up is not hyped and being hyped doesn't make you a hype job. :patsch

    Hype before you've actually achieved anything, then being exposed when you step up makes you a hype job. Bute is the definition of a hype job.
     
  3. laffie

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    Not Hopkins, of course! Before his arm got caught in the cables against Kuziemki, in round 4. In fact, he looked better after the injury.
     
  4. tobias

    tobias Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Knowing Lucien pretty well, he will not show up like that. He'll probably in the form of his life! :bbb
     
  5. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    You can think Bute is a hyped job if you want but thinking Pascal has a better resume is questionable. First, Bika is a better win than Johnson. Of course, it was before the Miranda fight so you may not have noticed. Second, Pascal has one single big win. A very big one but a single one. Diaconu never beat a good fighter on the world class scene so it is not a very good win. Bute's resume lacks of big names but the rest of his wins are stronger than Pascal's. Pascal faced better fighters but lost or drawed against them.

    Bute faced strong opposition very early in his career (remember, you were not watching him at the time) which is not the path of a hyped job.
     
  6. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    The word from people watching him in training is he has fire in his eyes.
     
  7. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pascal might have lost some of the big fights, but he didn't look bad in those fights ffs. The Froch fight was a close fight.

    I've seen the Bika fight.
     
  8. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    I swear the US is upside down, U use fractional or +300/-150 type of betting language and europeans use the 1.75 type.
    I'm guessing 4/5 fav means 1.75 or 1.80
     
  9. tobias

    tobias Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How can I bet my all vCash on Bute by KO? I don't really trust him because of heart but I think that's a valuable bet.
     
  10. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    It depends on how you look at a resume then. You give credit to Pascal for his defeats, why not? His victories are not so good though. Before facing Froch, Pascal was walking the path of a hyped job, facing only journeymen. In the mean time, Bute was facing better opposition. in the second half of their career, Pascal took bigger challenges than Bute.
     
  11. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Pascal is fav. the odds varies depending on the betting house between 1.66 and 1.80
    While Bute is underdog the odds varies(same principle) between 2.00 and 2.27
     
  12. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    thanks
     
  13. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    In Fantasy Boxing Betting Category on this forum, you check when IB post the Bute vs Pascal thread
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It means if you bet one dollar on Pascal you stand to gain four fifths (4/5) of a dollar - that is, eighty cents - in profit.

    That is the clearest and most sensible way to express odds.
     
  15. tobias

    tobias Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks.