Jeffries Title Challengers V Wlad?

Right to the attacks .. endlessly predictable ... just responding to the thread you started to keep fanning flames in true grinder style ... which Johnson title opponent do you feel defeats Vitali ? Do you think Burns goes 14 against Vitali or Ketchel 12 ? Please try and keep your posts short so reading them is tolerable .

 

The funny thing is this is the correct answer, but you ask how Wlad would do vs. Louis, Marciano or Johnson' opponents, the people saying Wlad was too big, skilled and strong for Jeffries opponents, might have a harder time admitting the same for say Louis and Marciano's and Johnson's opponents! Simply stated the new breed of super heavyweight with skills are not going to lose any decisions to old timers. Sorry, Wlad, Vitali, Lewis and Bowe lost just one decision, and that one was close! You pretty much have to knock them out if you are the smaller man.


If Wlad were to face Sharkey, Fitz, and Corbett 2x each for a total of six matches, he is likely going to get upset in one of the matches. Wlad's toughest match up is very a durable puncher with a lot of heart, and stamina...AKA Sharkey, or vs a big time puncher capable of taking his man out with one or two sudden punches in Fitzsimmons.


If Wlad were to fight Johnson title opponents, I think he knocks them all out with shocking ease, as they not in the same class as Jeffries title opponents.

 

Right to the attacks .. endlessly predictable ... just responding to the thread you started to keep fanning flames in true grinder style ... which Johnson title opponent do you feel defeats Vitali ? Do you think Burns goes 14 against Vitali or Ketchel 12 ?

 

The thread is specifically about jeffries so i see not why johnson is being mentioned here.

Ofcourse wlad is favoured to knock every one of jjj's opponents out. There isn't one man jjj fought who I would favour to defeat wlad over 15 rounds.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

: 5'8 midget Sharkey would look like a small child next to Wladimir. Sharkey didn't know much about skill, Wlad would play around with him and knock him out whenever he choses to do so.

 

On paper there are very few title challengers you would expect to beat wlad full stop.

 

This is true, but same goes with his own time. Who would have dreamed Purity, Brewster or Sanders would beat Wlad. Neither were considered even legitimate top 10 fighters at the time they beat Wlad, and all were supposed to be easy fights.

Choynski was if nothing else a huge hitterwho landed big and early on Jeffries. How would a young Wlad be expected to react if he was caught big and early, could he come back to draw (and in many eyes win the fight). Would he fold like he did against Sanders? Sharkey I was a tough contest for 20 rounds, where a big hitting (admittedly lighter opponent) fought an inexperienced Jeffries. Would Wlad survive and take the points, or would he collapse from exhaustion like he did against Purity? Could Wlad last 20 rounds against Sharkey a second time, with an injured hand or does he throw it in like his brother did? Can he survive heaps of bombs from a figher like Bob Fitzsimmons who was an all time great puncher, or does he drop from the first clean bomb landed like he did against Brewster? Can he take out an average challenger who talked his way into a title fight with his mouth more than hius gloves very early or does that guy last the distance like David Haye did.

Wlad might be expected to KO every one of Jeffries opponents, but it would seem that this would be ignoring what he actually did when faced with similar situations in his own career and just pinning hopes in the modern is better theory.

 

The problem with using generic responses against what you perceive to be a modernist approach is it never really answers the question at hand.

Ofcourse the wlad i'm referring to is the one from 06 onwards. The one who is genuinely an atg heavyweight.

From byrd 2 till today he's barely lost a round let alone be in any trouble like what you describe.

It has nothing to do with modern being better, i've just been rationalising why I expect duran to beat floyd at 147 and before that why I expect louis to beat frazier.

The question in hand is how does today's wlad do in 12 round fights against these contenders and I believe wlad beats them all.

Following wlad's career leads to the obvious realisation there were two wlad's; young aggressive then under steward mature and technical.

It is the latter I use for fantasy fights.

 

About the same as he would do with any random modern LHW.

 

Lol, at your comment. You are not a worthy opponent. Mcvey, you must be a legend in your own mind.

 

Wlad beats all of them so easily that he gets criticised for fighting bums and the Wlad detractors say he wouldn't last 2 seconds in the 1870s